I never said Favre was washed up. We didn't have a choice though. It was either getting him back for a year, maybe two, or having Aaron stay hear. I bet Ted Thompson would've been killed in the media in 3 years, if we had Grossman at QB or something.

t might be a personnel problem, I agree with you there, Favre sees the rush coming and other things you just gain through experience. Rodgers doesn't have all that yet, so the O-line looks like they would with any quarterback except for Nr. 4, the magician.

I would like to know who else you're talking about though, when you're refering to 'taking away all the old players and start over fresh'. We pretty much have the same team as last year, with one big change.

I think you just want someone to have the blame for our record, and you're free to do that, obviously. I don't think it's Thompson's fault though, and as we get more experienced, I see us winning a SB with most of this team.

You say that "we didn't have a choice". Who is we? We as fans didn't have a choice, but Ted Thompson and MM sure did. Do you forget that Favre wanted to come back as the starter and that Ted Thompson told the media that "he could come back, but that he would not be the starter"; hence, a backup to Rodgers. So yes, we DID have a choice.

And as for Rodgers, he wasn't in high demand before the season started as he had PROVED NOTHING. How do you know that he would have left at the end of 2008. The Packers still could have given him a contract at the end of 2008 if they felt that strongly about him. Which obviously they with choosing him as the starter over BF. Heck, he got a huge contract after winning only 5 games. I just don't buy that Rodgers was going to leave town if he didn't get to be a starter this year. I would have had no problem with him holding a clipboard for another year and then giving him a contract when he goes free agent. As a free agent with only a couple of games under his belt, he wouldn't have gotten more than 4 million a year in free agency, and that's on the high end - we just gave him 8 million/yr. No team would have looked at an unproven rookie and thrown 8 million their way without seeing him play at least 7-8 full games. Back in August he had no claim for the throne and had no real leverage, we could have gotten him even cheaper in free agency.

Problem is the choice was Favre as starter, release him, or play a game of chicken over the reinstatement papers to see who would flinch first. We all know that Ted Thompson won that poker game. The choice was made to trade away a legend.

I believe in accountability - you make your bed you've got to lie in it. Ted Thompson gambled and lost (barring a miraculous run to the SB). If the Packers were 8-3 right now, I'd say good for you TT, you deserve credit. You can't have it both ways. You can't give him all of the credit when the team wins and make excuses for him when they don't. Management is ultimately responsible and in the NFL they either get the credit or the blame.

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Yup no team would do that

unproven rookie 

Apples and oranges IMO. Matt Ryan was the #1 overall pick. He gets a big contract by default.

I have said that numerous times on Bretts site..That MM just might have been the one not wanting BF back because he wouldnt stop with the gunslinger antics

In fact the whole 6 hour meeting?

MM asking BF to let go of his hatred for Ted Thompson and to concentrate on being the q/b

BF insisted on non stop bashing of Ted Thompson in the meeting..BF didnt want to discuss competing, or scenerios with MM, just wanted to bash Ted Thompson
Now that is according to Gary Ellerson on WSSP as he said that stuff on the air.

Then there was a report that Ted Thompson came into the meeting and said thats it your done...



But I do know this for a fact..

Bak in JULY Brett was told he would never play in GB

SO?

What did he do other than play good in college??

At least AR studied under Bf, ran the scout team for 3 years, and knew the play book

Make more sense now?

I truly fing hate how rooks get those deals with out even looking at a NFL playbook

Good point.

We thought Tony G for a 3rd was the deal.

The Packers had the papers made up. Carl Peterson calls up and asks for a 2nd rounder instead and the Packers back out as they aren't going to give that up.

Pretty much Thompson was wiling to part with a 3rd, but not a 2nd.

His last three 2nd round picks have been Brandon Jackson, Brian Brohm, and Pat Lee. Nothing that real special although Jackson has played his role well. We're already getting an extra 2nd at least from the Favre trade too.

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Jordy Nelson was a second rounder

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I'm not sure I really wanted the Packers to get Gonzalez...

IMO, he has gotten too old. I mean, he's still good and all, but we could probably get a pretty good TE in the draft if we really even need one.

I say go for a DT or OL or something.

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