DoddPower
6 years ago
Sign another player of this magnitude, and maybe one other player to fill another positional hole, and the Packers should be in decent shape going into the draft. Although they still need to hit this draft out of the park.
sschind
6 years ago
Look at it from the CB position only. Is he better than or at least as good as D. Randall? if you answer yes we can stop all the hand wringing over the DR trade. We are at least back to even if you will at CB, we upgraded our position in two rounds of the draft, and we got a backup QB with some upside potential. That makes the DR trade a big win IMO.

Now we just need to upgrade from even because even wasn't all that good but at least we are not in the hole.
DoddPower
6 years ago

Look at it from the CB position only. Is he better than or at least as good as D. Randall? if you answer yes we can stop all the hand wringing over the DR trade. We are at least back to even if you will at CB, we upgraded our position in two rounds of the draft, and we got a backup QB with some upside potential. That makes the DR trade a big win IMO.

Now we just need to upgrade from even because even wasn't all that good but at least we are not in the hole.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



Well, if Randall ever gets his stuff together he could be a player for years. I can't imagine Tramon helping beyond this year. I wouldn't call it a wash talent wise in the long-run, but it's obvious the Packers were ready to move on from Randall, so it is what it is. Regardless, Tramon is a stop-gap that hopefully helps the Packers, but more help is needed.
gbguy20
6 years ago
If Tramon has still been playing at a top 10 CB level over the past few years, imagine how things could have been different for the packers had we kept him. Hindsight n what not
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Nonstopdrivel
6 years ago
That's one way of looking at it. The other way of looking at it is that he might have sucked for the past few years in Dom Capers' system. Maybe under Pettine he's poised to make an impact he wouldn't have made under the previous regime.
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gbguy20
6 years ago
Very true. Woodson played very well in Oakland after he left here too.
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Cheesey
6 years ago
I think it’s a good signing. I bet he will give all he’s got.
Plus veteran leadership.
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beast
6 years ago
I wanted him back last year too. Though I can't help but wonder if the Cardinals stats are a bit skewed... as I've heard how amazing their defensive coordinator creativity maniulated the "other DBs" because their star CB would go one on one man coverage with anyone, freeing up the other DBs.

I still think Williams is good, just not maybe as good as top 10 in the NFL at the position, especially when he was not top 1 on his team.

I also wonder what, if anything, this means for House.
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Zero2Cool
6 years ago

I had no idea he was still playing!

Originally Posted by: rabidgopher04 



That's probably a good thing. Kind of OL, you don't wanna be hearing their name bounced around.
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sschind
6 years ago

Well, if Randall ever gets his stuff together he could be a player for years. I can't imagine Tramon helping beyond this year. I wouldn't call it a wash talent wise in the long-run, but it's obvious the Packers were ready to move on from Randall, so it is what it is. Regardless, Tramon is a stop-gap that hopefully helps the Packers, but more help is needed.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



If the Packers were ready to move on from Randall he wouldn't have been any help beyond this year either. I suppose you could argue that he could have become a model team mate and changed their opinion but that's nothing but pure conjecture. I'm talking about which player would you rather have on the roster right now and for 2018 given the information you have and not what could happen. You can't change anything that has happened and you can't really predict what will happen so all you can go on is what you have right now. Lots of things could happen that would make each decision a great one or a lousy one.
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