packers sign CB Kyle Fuller to an offer sheet· Page 3

TheKanataThrilla
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7 years ago

#21

The low guaranteed amount probably made the pill easier to swallow for Chicago.

gbguy20
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7 years ago

#22

Quite a contract we offered. That would have left us with no cap space. Would have been followed with another cut I assume.

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blueleopard
Member

7 years ago

#23

That was fast.

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isocleas2
Member

7 years ago

#24

14 mil a year? I don't know if i'm disappointed the Bears matched or relieved. A little of both I guess.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

7 years ago

#25

That was fast.

Originally Posted by: blueleopard

I wouldn't have made it public I'm matching that offer so quick. If you let it stew for five days, more CB's get taken off the market and Packers wouldn't be able to make a play for them as quick. Now the Packers know Fuller is off the market so they can get involved in other CB talks sooner. Probably not that big of a deal, but I think the Bears did Packers a favor by matching so fast.

beast
Select Member

7 years ago

#26

Remember when the bikes stole John Sullivan from the Seahawks by signing him to an offer sheet that fully guaranteed his contract if he played more than 2 games in the state of Washington in 1 season, thus guaranteeing the birds couldn't match it? Did the new cba kill that? Or could we have just done the same thing to chicago?

Originally Posted by: gbguy20

I thought it was OG Steve Hutchinson... and that's called "poison pill" contract... but the contract guaranteed Hutchinson that he would either be the highest paid OL on the team or he'd have a lot more money guaranteed...

The problem for the Hawks was that they had a star LT earning more than Hutchinson.

Also poison pills have since become illegal to use in the NFL.

Smokey
Veteran Member

7 years ago

#27

I wonder if it is possible that BG, having a good idea of Kyle Fullers value to the Bears, deliberately bid on him to cost the Bears in cap money. Not that GB would not have benefited from his services, but gambled that Chicago would pay dearly to retain him.

A bold strategy, but BG would have followed through and GB would still have Fuller. [biggrin]

gbguy20
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7 years ago

#28

Originally Posted by: beast

You're probably right

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blueleopard
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7 years ago

#29

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

My thoughts exactly. Fair weather fans are making a big deal out of Gutekunst doing "nothing," but if anything, it shows that he really is looking under every stone. For all we know some random trade will happen with one of the 12 picks we have.

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Cheesey
Preferred Member

7 years ago

#30

Originally Posted by: Smokey

That’s exactly what I was thinking. Kind of like bluffing in poker. Make the Bears pay more then they wanted too to keep him.
Fuller should repay us by “allowing” a few TD passes against him next season!😂

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