Eagles, Vikings show Packers how they could've won without Aaron Rodgers

wpr
Preferred Member Topic Starter

7 years ago

The Eagles' and Vikings' blueprint to win without their starting QBs included better backups and more money invested in defense than the Packers had.

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Even a great QB needs a solid defense. Mediocre QBs need great defenses.

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nerdmann
Premier Member

7 years ago

Our defense did shit itself mightily, but Hundley played well enough to go .500. You can’t have 13 drops two weeks in a row and expect to win. Even with Aaron Rodgers.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

7 years ago

Our defense did shit itself mightily, but Hundley played well enough to go .500. You can’t have 13 drops two weeks in a row and expect to win. Even with Aaron Rodgers.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

Didn't the Packers get two turn overs pretty early on and Brett Hundley screwed up both opportunities to get a lead and ground and pound? That game we should have won. Hundley also threw away the Ravens game.

Cheesey
Preferred Member

7 years ago

Some teams have won the super bowl with very average QB's. You NEED a excellent defense. We had one in 2010.
We SHOULD have gone all the way in 2014.
If our D and new coordinator can turn us into at LEAST a decent D, we might have a chance.

TheKanataThrilla
Veteran Member

7 years ago

It is hard to win when most of your top paid talent is either injured or not living up to what they are being paid.

wpr
Preferred Member Topic Starter

7 years ago

Our defense did shit itself mightily, but Hundley played well enough to go .500. You can’t have 13 drops two weeks in a row and expect to win. Even with Aaron Rodgers.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

AND THERE IT IS!

I have been waiting for you to say it wasn't Hundley's fault. You didn't disappoint.

Cheesey
Preferred Member

7 years ago

Defense AND offense under produced.
Had AR stayed healthy, we would have made the playoffs, and would have at most won one playoff game.
I'm glad now what happened did happen. It caused the major changes too happen. Otherwise nothing would have changed.
Maybe we will have a chance now, before Rodgers' career ends.

nerdmann
Premier Member

7 years ago

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Be that as it may.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

nerdmann
Premier Member

7 years ago

AND THERE IT IS!

I have been waiting for you to say it wasn't Hundley's fault. You didn't disappoint.

Originally Posted by: wpr

.500.

I mean let's face it, that Pittsburgh game was just a damn lightning bolt. Ben does that to alot of teams. I mean, Hundley is what he is. He needs to work in his accuracy mid to deep, and he needs to anticipate better. Know the routes, know the WRs, throw them open by leading them with the ball. Know when the dude is gonna make his move to separate. Put the ball on the dime.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

nerdmann
Premier Member

7 years ago

#10

Defense AND offense under produced.
Had Aaron Rodgers stayed healthy, we would have made the playoffs, and would have at most won one playoff game.
I'm glad now what happened did happen. It caused the major changes too happen. Otherwise nothing would have changed.
Maybe we will have a chance now, before Rodgers' career ends.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey

What needs to happen is:

1: The training staff needs more emphasis on functional strength, so that we can keep guys on the field. Perry needs to adjust his diet, so he doesn't keep breaking the small bones in his hands.

2: Our star QB needs to stop holding the team's cap hostage so we can afford to field a great defense. I mean our D has much better players than the sum of them have produced under Dom, but you can't have it both ways.

I don't want to hear anymore bullshit about how the franchise is "wasting" Aaron's career, when dude is accounting for $20+ per. And btw, he wants to redo that to get more.

“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”

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Zero2Cool (18h) : sounds like Packers don't get good compensation, Jaire staying

dfosterf (21h) : Nobody coming up with a keep, but at x amount

dfosterf (21h) : Trade, cut or keep

dfosterf (23h) : that from Jaire

dfosterf (23h) : My guess is the Packers floated the concept of a reworked contract via his agent and agent got a f'

Zero2Cool (23h) : Yes, and that is why I think Rob worded it how he did. Rather than say "agent"

dfosterf (23h) : Same laws apply. Agent must present such an offer to Jaire. Cannot accept or reject without presenting it

Zero2Cool (23h) : I'm thinking that is why Rob worded it how he did.

dfosterf (23h) : The Packers can certainly still make the offer to the agent

dfosterf (23h) : Laws of agency and definition of fiduciary responsibility

dfosterf (23h) : Jaire is open to a reduced contract without Jaire's permission

dfosterf (23h) : The agent would arguably violate the law if he were to tell the Packers

Zero2Cool (23h) : That someone ... likely the agent.

Zero2Cool (23h) : So, Jaire has not been offered nor rejected a pay reduction, but someone says he'd decline.

Zero2Cool (23h) : Demovksy says t was direct communication with someone familiar with Jaire’s line of thinking at that moment.

Zero2Cool (16-Apr) : Demovsky just replied to me a bit ago. Jaire hasn't said it.

dfosterf (16-Apr) : Of course, that depends on the definition of "we"

dfosterf (16-Apr) : We have been told that they haven't because he wouldn't accept it. I submit we don't know that

dfosterf (16-Apr) : What is the downside in making a calculated reduced offer to Jaire?

Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Packers are receiving interest in Jaire Alexander but a trade is not imminent

Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Jalen Ramsey wants to be traded. He's never happy is he?

Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : two 1sts in 2022 and two 2nd's in 2023 and 2024

Zero2Cool (15-Apr) : Packers had fortunate last three drafts.

dfosterf (15-Apr) : I may have to move

dfosterf (15-Apr) : My wife just told the ancient Japanese sushi dude not enough rice under his fish

Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : I think a dozen is what I need

dfosterf (14-Apr) : Go fund me for this purpose just might work. A dozen nurses show up at 1265 to provide mental health assistance.

dfosterf (14-Apr) : Maybe send a crew of Angels to the Packers draft room on draft day.

Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : I am the Angel that gets visited.

dfosterf (14-Apr) : Visiting Angels has a pretty good reputation

Zero2Cool (14-Apr) : what

Martha Careful (14-Apr) : WINNING IT, not someone else losing it. The best victory though was re-uniting with his wife

Martha Careful (14-Apr) : The manner in which he won it was just amazing and wonderful. First blowing the lead then getting back, then blowing it. But ultimately

Zero2Cool (12-Apr) : I'm guessing since the thumb was broken, he wasn't feeling it.

dfosterf (10-Apr) : Looking for guidance. Not feeling the thumb.

Mucky Tundra (10-Apr) : If they knew about it or not

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Zero2Cool (10-Apr) : Guessing they probably knew. Did he have cast or something on?

Mucky Tundra (10-Apr) : Did they know that at the time or was that something the realized afterwards?

Zero2Cool (9-Apr) : Van Ness played most of season with broken thumb

wpr (9-Apr) : yay

Zero2Cool (9-Apr) : Mark Murphy says Steelers likely to protect Packers game. Meaning, no Ireland

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Mucky Tundra (8-Apr) : *CHOMP CHOMP CHOMP*

Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : WR who said he'd break Xavier Worthy 40 time...and ran slower than you

Mucky Tundra (2-Apr) : Who?

Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : Texas’ WR Isaiah Bond is scheduled to visit the Bills, Browns, Chiefs, Falcons, Packers and Titans starting next week.

Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : Spotting ball isn't changing, only measuring distance is, Which wasn't the issue.

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