DoddPower
6 years ago
I just hope Gutey truly follows a strict Best Player Available strategy, at least for critical positions such as offensive line, WR, defensive secondary, and defensive line. I know the Packers rank prospects by round, but hopefully they can draw some lines regarding who is the best of each tier and draft accordingly. The Packers simply need talent more than anything, at most positions on the team. I want players that will be good to great players for the next 10 years, even if they don't necessarily fill a direct need in 2018. Injuries will quickly change that anyway.
warhawk
6 years ago
It's a little early but I try to start by looking at the players who almost certainly won't be there at 14. This will get tweaked as time moves on and things get more clearer after the combine.

At this early stage looking at the big boards and mocks I see (and hope) four QB's come off the board before 14.
In addition these players are chosen early in almost all the mocks and rank high on the big boards:
S Fitzpatrick
RB Barkley
DE Chubb
OG Nelson
OT Williams
S James
If this holds true what strikes me is that after 10 picks still no CB's or Edge rushers other than Chubb who from my understanding is a true 4-3 end. GB normally ends up getting about the 4th best player at any given position in the 1st round so this would be a huge improvement from that.
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Bigbyfan
6 years ago
Give me MLB Roquan Smith out of Georgia. The Packers will finally have that top tier MLB they always seem to lack.
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Smokey
6 years ago
With no first round trades, the first pick of the GB Packer's in the 2018 NFL Draft needs to be the biggest, strongest, fastest, and most aggressive pass rusher available. A MONSTER that sends shivers of fear down the backs of Offensive Coordinators as try to formulate a game plan against the Packers.

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warhawk
6 years ago

Give me MLB Roquan Smith out of Georgia. The Packers will finally have that top tier MLB they always seem to lack.

Originally Posted by: Bigbyfan 



Smith looks like a perfect fit from what I have read about Pettine and his aggressive approach. The only issue with Smith is he's a little smallish. I think he's so fast though and quick to react he can beat OL to the spot but somewhat worried about injury. 225lbs is kinda light in the pants to play inside in the NFL.

He's a football player though for sure and one that will probably produce more right out of the blocks than some others. OT's, CB,s and Edge rushers generally take some time before they get to where you like to see them. Smith looks like he will be ready to rock from the time he hits the field. The team needs a quick turnaround on D so....having a rookie that makes a big impact would be huge.
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Rockmolder
6 years ago

With no first round trades, the first pick of the GB Packer's in the 2018 NFL Draft needs to be the biggest, strongest, fastest, and most aggressive pass rusher available. A MONSTER that sends shivers of fear down the backs of Offensive Coordinators as try to formulate a game plan against the Packers.

[nohair]

Originally Posted by: Smokey 



That sounds like Marcus Davenport, if he would ever reach his ceiling. That's one risky pick, though.

How about signing Ziggy Ansah and not going that route?

I mean, if you add Ansah to Perry and Matthews, you're pretty good for next year. Will be risky on the injury side, though, but he'll give you consistent pressure for a year or three.

We've already had Matthews' biggest cap hit this year and Perry's isn't that big next year, either. The year after that, you complete lose the $10 mil hit for Matthews. Perry's cap hit does go up, but there is some wiggle room at that position.

That said, great pass rushers don't hit the open market that often and when they do, they generally get ridiculous contracts. Ingram got $66 million with $42 guaranteed over 4 years last year. Can't imagine Ziggy getting a lot less than that.
dhazer
6 years ago
I am predicting a shocking pick, I am going to say we draft Lamar Jackson QB Louisville or Josh Allen QB Wyoming. Ted Thompson did it his first year and I see the same thing happening. Let him sit behind Rodgers a few years and then hand him the reigns and trade off AR.
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Rockmolder
6 years ago

I am predicting a shocking pick, I am going to say we draft Lamar Jackson QB Louisville or Josh Allen QB Wyoming. Ted Thompson did it his first year and I see the same thing happening. Let him sit behind Rodgers a few years and then hand him the reigns and trade off AR.

Originally Posted by: dhazer 



Jackson would be amazing to pick up. McCarthy could prove being a top notch QB groomer by getting his accuracy fixes up and you have one of the most electrifying QBs for the next 8 years.

That said, Jackson at 14 isn't as big of a steal as Rodgers at 24, Rodgers is a bit younger than Favre was and Rodgers hasn't given any indication of retiring yet.

I get where you're coming from and I wouldn't even hate that pick, but I don't see it happening.
warhawk
6 years ago

That sounds like Marcus Davenport, if he would ever reach his ceiling. That's one risky pick, though.

How about signing Ziggy Ansah and not going that route?

I mean, if you add Ansah to Perry and Matthews, you're pretty good for next year. Will be risky on the injury side, though, but he'll give you consistent pressure for a year or three.

We've already had Matthews' biggest cap hit this year and Perry's isn't that big next year, either. The year after that, you complete lose the $10 mil hit for Matthews. Perry's cap hit does go up, but there is some wiggle room at that position.

That said, great pass rushers don't hit the open market that often and when they do, they generally get ridiculous contracts. Ingram got $66 million with $42 guaranteed over 4 years last year. Can't imagine Ziggy getting a lot less than that.

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder 



I believe Gutekunst wiill focus on the back end of the roster in FA and shore up certain positions with a few solid veterans. They found out in a big way that to rely on young and inexperienced players to step in doesn't work out very well. These young guys just don't get enough practice time and are unprepared for what they see in real game situations. In other words they screw up way to much.

Rodgers can win just about any game if the rest of the team plays half way decent. Having a few more experienced backups when injuries occur would certainly help in that regard. Mike McCarthy mentioned the "gap" between starters and backups and HA HA, while who's he to talk, was accurate with what occurred on the field.

The draft is going to be interesting with 11 picks. Eleven rookies are not going to make this team or it would seem highly unlikely. Especially if they do sign a few vets in FA. So what Gutey does there is going to be fun to watch.



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Yerko
6 years ago

Give me MLB Roquan Smith out of Georgia. The Packers will finally have that top tier MLB they always seem to lack.

Originally Posted by: Bigbyfan 



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