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uffda udfa
7 years ago
Tons of respect for Ed Cunningham. The groundswell against football is only just beginning.

Enjoy the Packers while you still can...

http://awfulannouncing.com/ncaa/ex-espn-football-analyst-ed-cunningham-quit-uncomfortable-promoting-dangerous-sport.html 
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Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago
I barely watch any games but the Packers anymore anyway. They have made the game almost unwatchable even before the concussion issues today.

I would ask how does walking away help? Unless it is his kids, I don't think any player or parent or kid is going to walk away from the game because he quit. I would say he could have had more impact by staying on the air and talking about the topic. He will likely be replaced by somebody who doesn't care or care as much and the game will go on as before and not even notice his departure.
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uffda udfa
7 years ago

I barely watch any games but the Packers anymore anyway. They have made the game almost unwatchable even before the concussion issues today.

I would ask how does walking away help? Unless it is his kids, I don't think any player or parent or kid is going to walk away from the game because he quit. I would say he could have had more impact by staying on the air and talking about the topic. He will likely be replaced by somebody who doesn't care or care as much and the game will go on as before and not even notice his departure.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



Great moral debate. Yes, someone will take his place but at least it won't be him. Taking a stand for something you believe in is to be applauded. To think as he did and continue is criminal, to me, based on the idea of, Oh well, someone else will just do it if I don't. Again, at least it won't be you. What you believe and stand for is very important.

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Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


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7 years ago
The numbers of kids going out for HS football in this area is down. Now I realize not many of them make it to be NFL players but a few do. If numbers are down here they are probably down in other places too. It will have an impact. NFL Inc and medicine will have to come up with better protection. Leather helmets gave away to better protecting helmets. It's only a matter of time before they come up with something that gives the player complete protection.
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uffda udfa
7 years ago
It's the truth here so don't blast me...it's irresponsible as a parent to let your child play football. What parent in their right mind would with all this new evidence of brain compromisation? Who would willingly subject their own children to that fate?

Now, I'm not completely sold on the "science" as I wonder about PED's and their effect on the mind and body. There are those who don't suffer from CTE and they're looking to see why that group does not. I wonder aloud if that isn't the group that steered clear from PED's?

My honest belief is football has a shelf life that is soon to rapidly decline. We shall see.
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7 years ago

Tons of respect for Ed Cunningham. The groundswell against football is only just beginning.

Enjoy the Packers while you still can...

http://awfulannouncing.com/ncaa/ex-espn-football-analyst-ed-cunningham-quit-uncomfortable-promoting-dangerous-sport.html 

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



I respect Max Birnbaum. He walked away first. 😁




Next Chris Borland. He broke my secretary's heart when he quit.
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PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago

The numbers of kids going out for HS football in this area is down. Now I realize not many of them make it to be NFL players but a few do. If numbers are down here they are probably down in other places too. It will have an impact. NFL Inc and medicine will have to come up with better protection. Leather helmets gave away to better protecting helmets. It's only a matter of time before they come up with something that gives the player complete protection.

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Is that recent or has it been on going? Where I am, football "enrolment" has been on a decline for a good 15-20 years as soccer and other alternatives became more mainstream. I never had the option for soccer when I was in HS, I probably would have played seeing that I to small for football.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
TheKanataThrilla
7 years ago
I signed up my son for Tyke football (7-9) this year. The numbers have been down a bit, but I believe this is largely due to the media focus on concussions of NFL players. I am not sure if kids playing football are at any more risk of a concussion than kids playing hockey, rugby and soccer. We are teaching kids "safe tackling" and to keep their head up. Helmet technology is getting better. We are moving in a positive direction.

It seems that many of the bad head injuries seem to come from needless borderline cheap hits. I think coaching needs to bring out toughness, but crack down on cheap shots. I know our coaches make the kids run laps if you hit somebody cheaply. It is a very good thing to try and get the stupid stuff out of the game.

I will tell you watching the little kids play if pretty awesome.
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7 years ago

Is that recent or has it been on going? Where I am, football "enrolment" has been on a decline for a good 15-20 years as soccer and other alternatives became more mainstream. I never had the option for soccer when I was in HS, I probably would have played seeing that I to small for football.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



There has been a decrease since soccer has grown but a larger decrease in the past 5 years. A number of small schools have had to consolidate with other schools. Factor in winning traditions. Schools who win on a consistent basis still have large/strong programs. Schools where the wins are few and far between are folding. (It ain't worth it concept) Schools that bounce between playoff caliber and slightly below .500 are also having their numbers drop but not as fast as the weaker schools.
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PackFanWithTwins
7 years ago
That's another good point, winning and losing makes a huge difference. There is a lot more where parents will transport to different schools or change districts to get their child into a certain school for a specific sport depending on which sport they want to concentrate on, along with more kids playing only one sport where they would have been in 2 or 3 or 4 years ago.

I don't want to say concussions or the violence in football doesn't play into the numbers going down, but there is so much more to it.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
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