Zero2Cool
7 years ago
That's because he's not the damn QB ..

Yes, really. Throughout this preseason, the Green Bay Packers  have struggled on offense when the backups enter football games. A large portion of the responsibility for this falls at the feet of the offensive line. Although the starting line remains a strong unit once again this season, the reserves have struggled in game action, to say the least.

Through three exhibition games, the Packers’ reserve line has allowed fourteen quarterback sacks and has generated little push in the running game. However, Packers head coach Mike McCarthy said this during his Monday press conference when asked about his reserve linemen: “I feel great about our offensive line depth. We have great numbers there.”

Now, McCarthy said something similar last week when asked about the performance of left tackle Jason Spriggs , who had a rough game in Washington. It could just be that McCarthy does not want to call out his players publicly. Or, he and his coaching staff could have legitimately graded out the backup linemen higher than those outside the facility at 1265 Lombardi Avenue believe.

To be fair, McCarthy hedged his first comment a bit — but only a bit — by saying that “everybody needs to learn from their last experience.” Still, he went on to say that he thought the film that the team has from Saturday’s loss to the Denver Broncos  was “excellent” and that the “quality of play for evaluation was definitely there.”

Whatever the case may be, the Packers must hope that their starting line remains intact, because the results so far in game action speak for themselves, regardless of the head coach’s vague comments.

McCarthy did also address the front seven on the Packers’ defense as well, noting that “we got a little thing there” when Nick Perry  and Jayrone Elliott  were forced to leave the game in the first half. Leading up to the fourth and final contest of the preseason, it was unlikely that Perry  would have played anyway, but he will almost certainly sit along with Clay Matthews. McCarthy alluded to this, saying that “week four will (have) some great opportunities for the younger cats,” referring to young edge rushers like Kyler Fackrell , Reggie Gilbert , and Johnathan Calvin .

One other player who may have an opportunity to contribute this week is fourth-round draft pick Vince Biegel , who has seemed to take positive steps forward in his rehab recently. McCarthy was his usual coy self about that situation, however: “We’ll see with the Vince Biegel situation what comes to light this week.” When asked by reporter Tom Silverstein if he is hopeful that Biegel will return, McCarthy dropped his best line of the press conference: “I’m full of hope, Tom. I’m the captain of hope.”

The final injury news (or lack thereof) that McCarthy discussed related to Perry , Bryan Bulaga , and Don Barclay , all of whom face concerns about ankle injuries. Again, McCarthy said he is “hopeful,” this time about those three players’ chances of playing in week one against the Seahawks . “We’ll see how it sorts out, they’re here every day,” he said. “(In) my conversations with those guys, (they say) they’re all going to be ready. We’ll weigh that with the medical staff, and I’m optimistic.”




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DarkaneRules
7 years ago
No comment.
Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance
uffda udfa
7 years ago
Oh, how I just love coach speak. Those who don't really watch or know the game will read that and conclude things are just fine. 😞
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Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


Porforis
7 years ago

Oh, how I just love coach speak. Those who don't really watch or know the game will read that and conclude things are just fine. :(

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



I mean, we all know this statement is bull for sure. But unless you're suggesting that you'd never use a statement from Mike McCarthy to back up your argument because hey, it's just coach-speak, what's with the sniping?
uffda udfa
7 years ago

I mean, we all know this statement is bull for sure. But unless you're suggesting that you'd never use a statement from Mike McCarthy to back up your argument because hey, it's just coach-speak, what's with the sniping?

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



I agree that it's bull but would vehemently disagree that EVERYONE knows that it is. I have used non coach speak from MM just recently on this forum.

What's with the sniping? You have many fans, some actually on this site, who take as gospel anything and everything coach says. If I, you, or another poster dares to question the OL depth it will immediately send them into fight or flight mode regarding defending the org's honor and they always choose fight. It creates a bad forum experience when the perspective is shared that the org can do no wrong. Believing the OL depth is okay or even not good, when it's actually beyond brutal, is just going to create issues here. You calling the statement BS may even invite a fight. Sadly, if you debate with such people they will use what MM said as their reply and say that they'll go with MM over you any day. There is no ability to think independently for some. Do you really feel like arguing with a fan about this issue and hearing them cite MM as their proof that you're wrong and then see them put their fingers in their ears and hands over their eyes claiming they're right and you're wrong "because coach said?".

I've said this before, here...where you get your viewpoint from is very important. If you spend a lot of time on Packers.com and JSO especially now that McGinn is gone you're going to have one heavily slanted and warped perception of where this team and franchise actually is and that is exactly my issue. I don't rely on such sources and those that do clash violently with me.
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yooperfan
7 years ago
WOW!
That is all.
wpr
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7 years ago
I get it that Mike doesn't want to criticize his players in the media. That's his right. It's ridiculous to pretend it isn't a problem. It's ridiculous for him to think we wouldn't be able to tell that it's a real problem.
He could say a lot of things besides

“I feel great about our offensive line depth. We have great numbers there.”

unless he is talking about their height and weight. Those numbers aren't too bad.


Murphy, Kyle 6-6 305
Spriggs, Jason 6-6 301
Gray, Geoff 6-5 315
Bulaga, Bryan 6-5 314
Pankey, Adam 6-5 313
Leff, Robert 6-5 302
Evans, Jahri 6-4 318
Bakhtiari, David 6-4 310
Barclay, Don 6-4 305
Taylor, Lane 6-3 324
McCray, Justin 6-3 317
Patrick, Lucas 6-3 313
Evans, Thomas 6-3 305
Amichia, Kofi 6-3 304
Linsley Corey 6-3 301


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uffda udfa
7 years ago

I get it that Mike doesn't want to criticize his players in the media. That's his right. It's ridiculous to pretend it isn't a problem. It's ridiculous for him to think we wouldn't be able to tell that it's a real problem.
He could say a lot of things besides unless he is talking about their height and weight. Those numbers aren't too bad.


Murphy, Kyle 6-6 305
Spriggs, Jason 6-6 301
Gray, Geoff 6-5 315
Bulaga, Bryan 6-5 314
Pankey, Adam 6-5 313
Leff, Robert 6-5 302
Evans, Jahri 6-4 318
Bakhtiari, David 6-4 310
Barclay, Don 6-4 305
Taylor, Lane 6-3 324
McCray, Justin 6-3 317
Patrick, Lucas 6-3 313
Evans, Thomas 6-3 305
Amichia, Kofi 6-3 304
Linsley Corey 6-3 301

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MM almost sounds like a fan. He really does. I can't tell you how many times over the last 18 years I've heard things like... we have this guy and this guy and this guy at any given position. Who? Every team in the NFL has this guy this guy and this guy on their roster. The key is not to have a bunch of JAG's (just a guy's) on your roster. Sure, we have plenty of choices/guys. All of which are less than ideal.


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Smokey
7 years ago
With RT Brian Bulaga recovering and back-up O-lineman Don Barclay out as well , the depth of GB's O-Line is being tested . Kyle Murphy seems to be doing better as a back-up than Jason Spriggs has.

Coach McCarthy , with his O-line not at 100%, has done the right thing. He has uplifted his healthy players to hopefully preform better, rather than tearing down their confidence at a critical time. Some coaches would go in the other direction and just end up making matters even worse.

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uffda udfa
7 years ago

With RT Brian Bulaga recovering and back-up O-lineman Don Barclay out as well , the depth of GB's O-Line is being tested . Kyle Murphy seems to be doing better as a back-up than Jason Spriggs has.

Coach McCarthy , with his O-line not at 100%, has done the right thing. He has uplifted his healthy players to hopefully preform better, rather than tearing down their confidence at a critical time. Some coaches would go in the other direction and just end up making matters even worse.

Originally Posted by: Smokey 



Paging Porforis...what did I tell you? There's more out there lurking. 🤣

All he had to say is... It could be better...or...they're a work in progress...not LIE and say he feels fine about it.

If he wanted to give his guys a pump up. He should do it behind closed doors not by lying to the media.


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