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7 years ago
Article talking about who's they think is a Star player vs just a System players and most importantly why. I think it does a lot better than most explaining why they think Star or System guy.

No Packers in the article, but they did a good job explaining Hayward.

SYSTEM GUYS
Casey Hayward, CB, Los Angeles Chargers
Age: 27
Top 100 rank: 64

No matter how I much I rave about Hayward's spectacular combination of ball skills, instincts and playmaking ability, there are going to be a lot of folks who take offense to me listing him as a "system guy." Although he essentially shut down one half of the field for the Chargers with his ballhawking skills on the island, Hayward isn't a traditional shutdown corner in the truest sense of the term. Instead of blanketing WR1s with a suffocating bump-and-run technique, he specializes in delivering splash plays as a "see ball, get ball" cornerback in a zone scheme that allows him to "pattern read" (recognize route combinations) from a distance.

Utilizing a traditional backpedal or a "bail" technique (side-shuffle), Hayward keeps enough distance between himself and the receiver to see the big picture and react accordingly based on the route combination. This makes him a perfect fit for a team that employs a lot of zone coverage because this allows a corner to play with vision on the quarterback instead of locking in on his man.

This might be why Hayward has played at an "A" level with the Chargers after a pretty nondescript four-year tenure in Green Bay. Last season, the Chargers employed a lot of simple zones under former defensive coordinator John Pagano -- and the team will continue to feature zone-like principles with Gus Bradley in charge. In fact, Bradley told me this offseason that he expects Hayward to have a big year because he is a "perfect fit" as a field corner in his scheme, being a zone playmaker who plays with outstanding vision and awareness.

With that in mind, it is possible that Hayward remains a top playmaker at his position due to a scheme that allows him to play to his strengths.

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7 years ago
I guess that shows that you should pattern your defense to play to your player's strengths.
Maybe if we did that, we would be a lot better. I'm STILL mad that we let Hayward go. Especially seeing how bad our D has been.

Look at how guys on our offense have faired since leaving here. Greg Jennings for example. It shows you how much the guys you are playing with make a difference. Jennings had Aaron Rodgers throwing him the ball, and he looked like a world beater. He left, and did nothing after that.
If you have excellent players at other spots on your team, they can lift your level of play. If you have to spend half your time trying to make up for the weaknesses of your team mates, your own play will suffer.
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