beast
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5 years ago
Last year, when I was trying to figure out LaFleur's system and attempting to figure how our current players fit into it, I had some struggles on how all the players fit (especially Graham), but after this draft, it's starting to make prefect sense how the pieces fit.

In this system, they usually have
~ Outside WRs that either are quick and great route runners, or a speed demon, and preferably willing to block.
~ Great route running large slot receiver (WR or TE), that can run all the routes over the middle and threaten the seam, as well as block well.
~ A versatility blocker than can be used in multiple, also slip out as surprises and make big plays.
~ A quick power RB, that's also effective as a receiver in simply routes when they can get a LB matched up one on one.
And with this, they usually have guys that can switch role from snap to snap without missing a beat

While, they still don't really have much depth, the starting line up for the future looks like it could be decent (FYI: Guys with only one year left on their contracts, Aaron Jones and Funchess, I'm putting in the second positions, as I'm more looking long term (also cause I don't fully know how they're going to use Funchess)


WR1: Adams / MVS / Kumerow
WR2: Lazzard / Funchess / MVS
Slot: Sternberger / Funchess / Deguara
Blocker: Deguara / Lewis / Sternberger
Power RB: Dillion / Jones / Williams

Honestly, doing it this year, it seem to make a lot more sense than any time I tried to do it with Graham as he was only stuck in the slot. While going forward, Sternberger and Deguara can basically be used in any and all ways, giving them great versatility, and Adams has played in the slot at times as well. And while I haven't seen Lazzard play from the slot often, they have had him there when they needed a key extra block in the slot role.


This is the most versatile they're been at Slot/Blocker positions in a long time. And Sternberger and Deguara can both also play H-back, FB, inline TE, slot WR and everywhere is very nice. I still think they need another guy like that for depth, but they need depth everywhere. Though they did improve their depth along the interior of the OL very nicely.
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dyeah_gb
5 years ago
Agree with your assessment. The McVay type offense follows this philosophy. The versatility has the benefit to allow for the ability to run alot of plays from the same formation before the snap. Unfortunate how shallow the Rams looked in the Super Bowl. Not sure if that game shows the blueprint against this type of offense.

Also it seems challenging to develop your players to be elite in multiple skill sets in the offense. Bad execution can result if they can't accomplish this.
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nerdmann
5 years ago
I think they're going to run it more too.

They're not gonna keep letting Aaron change the plays all the time. And when it's Love's turn, he will be able to lean on the ground game to help him out.
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beast
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5 years ago

Agree with your assessment. The McVay type offense follows this philosophy. The versatility has the benefit to allow for the ability to run alot of plays from the same formation before the snap. Unfortunate how shallow the Rams looked in the Super Bowl. Not sure if that game shows the blueprint against this type of offense.

Also it seems challenging to develop your players to be elite in multiple skill sets in the offense. Bad execution can result if they can't accomplish this.

Originally Posted by: dyeah_gb 


Yeah, while they were all with the Redskins, Shanahan, McVay and LaFelur all sorta got the same idea of how to best used this system and they all do that. In recent years they've been to 3 Super Bowls (Falcons, Rams and 49ers and currently 0-3)... I think the Rams struggles had more to do with everything they did was based on Todd Gurley being a super major threat, and he got injured and was no longer that threat.

But this scheme quite literally makes the RB position extremely important, as basically it sets up the passing game for play actions and taking pressure off the passing game. Without that RB threat, this offense can be in trouble.

I think they're going to run it more too.

They're not gonna keep letting Aaron change the plays all the time. And when it's Love's turn, he will be able to lean on the ground game to help him out.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Yeah... I think it's very doubtful that you're correct.... as I believe they said, it was hard at times to run no huddle or audible because they didn't have the versatile pieces to do that, plus didn't have the experience in the system for the team to do it.

I actually think Rodgers is likely to have more freedom now, with more versatile players.
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TheKanataThrilla
5 years ago

In recent years they've been to 3 Super Bowls (Falcons, Rams and 49ers and currently 0-3)... I think the Rams struggles had more to do with everything they did was based on Todd Gurley being a super major threat, and he got injured and was no longer that threat.

Originally Posted by: beast 



What's funny is that they are 0-3 and if they probably stay in their system they are at least 2-1. Falcons and 49ers stopped running the ball and stopped burning clock which I think is key.

I am excited to see what this new offense will finally look like. I really like the idea of controlling time of possession. Helping our D by not relying on the big play.
Nonstopdrivel
5 years ago

They're not gonna keep letting Aaron change the plays all the time.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 


I couldn't agree more, though I think he will have numerous options within the formations called.
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wpr
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5 years ago
good post beast. I have been thinking of saying something all afternoon but you were much more eloquent.

It's hard to watch the team move on from the McCarthy system that we grew accustomed to to something new. There won't be as many 3 WR formations. More 2 RBs and 2 TEs.
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Zero2Cool
5 years ago

good post beast. I have been thinking of saying something all afternoon but you were much more eloquent.

It's hard to watch the team move on from the McCarthy system that we grew accustomed to to something new. There won't be as many 3 WR formations. More 2 RBs and 2 TEs.

Originally Posted by: wpr 



When you have a 2 RB's and 2 TE's scheme you should draft more WR's.
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5 years ago
Observations from some of our brightest posters (I will not take the time for attribution) compiled herein. Within the MLF scheme, we are taking the Titans/49er approach to team building/game planning. Ergo:[list]
  • we have collectively misunderstood roster desires of MLF
  • we have collectively undervalued the ability of wide outs/slots to block.[*]we have undervalued the desire to pound the ball, control the clock, and keep the defense off the field.[*]we are no longer a McCarthy style team.[*]We want a flexible roster especially in the passing game where RBs and TEs are primary target esp in play action.[*]We have over-valued burners outside.[/list]I am not saying our approach is right or wrong. It will be interesting to watch the transition.
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