Someone went off in a huge off topic rant...
Who the hell are you to say if someone has self-respect for their own heritage?
Are you (stupidity) suggestions that all people of a certain heritage always think the same or they lack self respect? That's closed minded BS!
Back to your example of N word... some blacks hate the word and never think it should be used ever... other blacks wear it like its a badge of honor, and even Woodson has said that black players use the N word on the field often to each other.
Just because they use a word to each other, sure as hell doesn't mean they've lost self-respect of any kind.
Originally Posted by: beast
Because he said so! PFWT's disrespect for NA culture wasn't show by how he feels about one word; it is that he is taking his belief in the meaning of "Redskin" and has the temerity to impugn any NA that doesn't see it his way. I asserted and supported the historical and present basis as to why some NAs night not be so willing to let the use of the word "Redskin" to roll of their back. And again the history of hate juxtaposed against disgraceful images and things like the President calling a NA senator “Pocahontas" unconsciously shapes children and young adults. It is being indoctrinated in some NAs at a young age that YOU ARE SECOND CLASS. How anyone can take this issue w/ such triteness is beyond my understanding; but for a NA to take this view is disgustingly offensive to me. What's the word for a NA Uncle Tom?
And who the hell are you to unilaterally decide that I cannot hold and speak that opinion? 😂
Someone...off topic rant? Why the veiled adhominem attack? Speak like a man! EG, try something like this: "barfarn I believe this, this and this are off topic and dissuades the actual topic because of A, B, C. " You don't have to get all bitchy.
Suggestion: when responding, take a moment to reflect and go to a word processor and type out your argument to support your opinion, and read it back to yourself.
Someone said let's just all be called Americans; well I dont know any minority group that doesn't want that. By and large there is no more Irish, Italian or German American. This didn't happen because they wanted to assimilate; it happened because they were allowed to. When they were not allowed to be "Americans" they set up their own little organizations and rallied a certain way that some find as trying to be exclusive, but it was the best, maybe only way to survive. The day White America FULLY accepts Blacks, the Arabic and NAs as equals, is the day these words will have less to no power to elicit strong emotions.
Did you know a lot of Blacks wont eat watermelon in public? It's something that wouldn't have even dawned on me; but some are so affected by the way the images of "watermelon" and "Blacks" have been portrayed over time. Today most wouldn't give a thought to a Black eating watermelon; but images do matter, they have very real affects on subconscious.
The word "honky" is derogatory to Whites. Now if Whites were enslaved for 250 years and referred to by their Brown taskmasters as "Honky," followed by 100 years of Honky Crow; and illegal traffic stops and executions at them, etc.; you'd react very differently if some Brown person, maybe in a police uniform got upset with you and called you "honky."
To decide what "Redskin" means requires one to see it in context of HISTORY and it is a horrible and degrading history. Not nearly as well publicized as Black struggles; but in many ways much less progress has been made. Trump referred to Sen. E. Warren as “Pocahontas" and there was a shaking of heads; but had he referred to Sen. Kamala Harris as "Aunt Jemima" much of the nation would have gone nuts.
So, if you read my post with calm and the intent to understand, you will see I am saying the exact OPPOSITE that everyone needs to see "Redskin" the same way. I specifically say, it is your RIGHT, it's that if you do use it, you're an unfeeling nasty little trolling [assho]. And you are this because to be a productive positive member you must care not to bring harm or suffering to others. If you don't care if people suffer from your words then you are an [assho].
Communication is always 2 things: (1) there's what a person means or implies; and (2) there's how it is understood or inferred. "Redskin" cannot be defined only by how you perceive what it means to you.
Again that said, I agreed fully with the SCOTUS Opinion. EVERYONE has the right to use "Redskin." IT IS THE LAW!
But, my friends, the law is the minimum standard of behavior allowed in society. The point I was making at the end is the law should not dictate our morality. Each of us must endeavor to act far in excess of the min standard of behavior. And though Snyder appears to have the right to keep "Redskin" as a trademark, the more important question is; should he? Is a team name so important it is morally acceptable to offend many many people?
If I bought the team, it would have been changed the next day. Not because I had to, it is because I realize its my social responsibility as an NFL franchise NOT to help create divisions in society. Also, as citizens and fans we have a choice, we can either support sociopathic Snyder's indifference to many who suffer from seeing an NFL team as denigrating NA People [this was the purpose of the GB ni@@ers corollary], or we can fight it. Eventually, the financial wherewithal of compassionate America will defeat the indifferent sociopathic myopic [assho] America and Snyder will do the right thing and change the name; but he will always be an [assho].