TheKanataThrilla
8 years ago
Favorite Pick: Dupre

Most Impactful Pick in 2017: Adams

Sleeper: Jones

Grade: J'ai aucune idée (sorry guys in full time French for work)

I think Dupre may leapfrog a few guys on the roster. I have to admit I hope this pans out, but it is hard to feel strong when we are drafting DBs in round 1 and 2 only 2 years after drafting DBs in round 1 and 2. I know we need a replacement for Sam and always need to be looking forward, but it is hard to be nervous on what the future holds for Randall and Rollins and whether we are admitting defeat on those picks.

I know we just dropped two RBs, but I still don't get drafting 3 RBs. I like the competition, but we are pretty much drafting guys to either lose them or hope they stick to the PS. Would have rather taken an additional OL or a Punter to be honest than a 3rd RB.

My sleeper ranking for Jones is I think he is a given contributor. I just think he may have the intangibles to be something special for this team. I don't want to jinx him, but I would love to see another Nick Collins on this team.
beast
8 years ago

Thank you for that information Buck , I did not obviously know that before . Seems like a small number to me . I may just procure the invite list and compare it with the entire 2017 Draft. might prove to be most interesting .

Originally Posted by: Smokey 



It's a small number because teams get to meet and talk with players elsewhere as well... such as they get a certain number of exclusive meetings at the combine as well, and can meet with players after all-star games such as the Senior Bowl/East-West Shrine Game etc (though those aren't exclusive).


Something I noticed is the Packers invite their allotment but seem to rarely draft someone they've invited. I'm not sure if that holds true over the last few years, but was something I noticed when I was trying to predict who they'd select.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



The Packers seem to use their invite allotments on players they have questions or concerns on, so it seems like they often use one on a player with some troubles in his past, such as they did this year with RB Joe Mixon, but almost never draft. But they also use them on players for other questions... like they used one on TE Jermichael Finley, which most seemed to question why was he coming out of college early when some thought he might be a 1st round selection if he said in college another year.

But I agree with your point, that overall they rarely seem to draft the guys that they invite... though they usually sign a few as undrafted FAs. Of course the players they're usually inviting in have questions because the Packers need to see more, because they have questions, and it all depends on how they verbal, mental or physical questions are answered.
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beast
8 years ago

The most exciting portion of the offseason, for me, has passed. And I'd love to hear your guys' thoughts on the draft:

Originally Posted by: coltonja 


Good thought for a thread.

Favorite Pick: S Josh Jones, 6'1", 220
Maybe I'm being too hopeful, but this selection has me having flash backs (in some ways) to Nick Collins' selection... NO I don't think he'll be an amazing FS like colleges, but I do think Jones could change the Packers defense.

I believe Jones could become a great SS/ILB type, as the NFL is looking for more and more speed/coverage SS and LBers... and the Packers just found one that's almost the same size as their current coverage LB Joe Thomas. I believe Jones could be the future starting SS and dime LB that has CB (straight line) speed, SS size and LB hitting.

Most Impactful Pick in 2017: RB Jamaal Williams, 6'0", 212
When I think Most Impactful, I think most needed, and the Packers needed a power RB to go with Montgomery and Williams fits that bill. Doesn't really have speed, but he has quickness, power, can find the hole and his pass blocking is above average for a college RB. Plus, there is clearly an opening at #2 RB right now.

Short Term Sleeper: RB Devante Mays, 5'11", 230
Basically the same for above with Williams with two differences. One Mays power is more speed-to-power and not pure power like Williams, basically Mays needs to get moving to get power where as Williams seem to push a pile when stopped and when he has room to get going, Mays has built up speed too. I believe Mays would of been drafted higher if he didn't have an injury filled last year.

Long Term Sleeper: C Kofi Amichia 6'4", 297
I could be completely wrong about this selection, but the Packers have normally be right on the money when drafting centers (which is what Amichia was announced as, and NFL.com has him listed at), and Amichia said he started as a center his freshmen year before moving to OT. Like Mays above, Amichia had an injury filled last season, but has good physical potential. He needs to get stronger and might on the bubble as a rookie, if the Packers are able to hang onto him, I believe he'll develop into a good player.

Grade: You can't fairly grade a draft until at least 3 years after the draft
Look at WR Jordy Nelson... that draft looked question at first with only Sitton breaking out as rookie, then Finley in year 2 and FINAL Nelson in the second half of his 3rd year and turned out to be a great draft.

I think the 2015 draft is still in question and they have another year to go for the 3 year mark.

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beast
8 years ago

Good thought for a thread.

Favorite Pick: S Josh Jones, 6'1", 220
I believe Jones could become a great SS/ILB type, as the NFL is looking for more and more speed/coverage SS and LBers... and the Packers just found one that's almost the same size as their current coverage LB Joe Thomas. I believe Jones could be the future starting SS and dime LB that has CB (straight line) speed, SS size and LB hitting.

Originally Posted by: beast 



And in the very first rookie practice, reports saw Josh Jones working drills at the ILB position! He's gonna be an SS/ILB hybird alright! I'm excited for his potential there! ... and if comes along well enough, he could make a huge impact as a coverage ILB/nickel/dime package guy as well.

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