Zero2Cool
7 years ago
Vince Biegel | Linebacker | Wisconsin | 6'1" - 220 lbs.
 


OVERVIEW
This two-time all-conference pick came from a football family. His father, Rocky, played linebacker at BYU while his uncle T.D. was a fullback for the Cougars. Vince's grandfather, Ken, played Division III ball and was a Wisconsin and national high school hall of fame coach. Coming from that lineage, it was no surprise Vince was the Wisconsin Gatorade Player of the Year as a senior (172 tackles, 21 sacks) and earned a scholarship to play for the Badgers. A foot injury ended his freshman season after two games, but he came on late the following year to start twice (25 tackles, three for loss, two sacks). Biegel led the Badgers with 16.5 tackles for loss (7.5 sacks) as a starter in 2014, and earned third-team All-Big Ten notice with 66 stops, 14 for loss, and eight sacks as a junior. Despite being limited for multiple games, missing two, with a broken foot, Biegel was a second-team All-Big Ten performer in 2016 (six TFL, four sacks).

ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS Voted team captain. Known for intensity and all-out love for the sport. Instinctive. Diagnoses zone blocks quickly and darts through gaps into backfield to muddy backside cutback lanes. Works to keep outside shoulder uncovered for contain responsibilities against the run. Emotional leader for the Badgers. Wrap-up tackler looking to thud. Flashes desired pursuit speed to perimeter. First-strike specialist at point of attack. Lands hands first and immediate arm extension provides leverage against much bigger blockers. Adequate hip flexibility and change of direction to mirror play-action rollouts. Good run-pass recognition. Was asked to peel off and cover in space. Squeezes receivers from zone. Posted productive rush totals over sophomore and junior seasons. Father, uncle, grandfather and younger brother all played college ball.

WEAKNESSES Undersized, and it often shows up on tape. Needs to increase play strength and add more bulk to his frame. Gets jostled around by tackles if he loses with his hands. Poor contact balance to fight through redirect blocks and can get shoved to turf. Average three-step burst upfield. Duck-foot rusher missing twitch and athleticism to bend the edge. Attempts to activate spin counter, but he's missing footwork to bring it home. "Take-on" anchor and power versus lead blockers is below average. Quick to stack, slow to shuck.

DRAFT PROJECTION Rounds 5-6

SOURCES TELL US "Has to get stronger. He's got great makeup and is a great teammate and leader. Medicals with his foot are worrisome. Could be a flag for him." -- Midwest regional scout for NFC team

NFL COMPARISON Frank Zombo

BOTTOM LINE Effort-based worker bee with edge-setting hands and attitude, but a lack of power that could lead to inconsistency in play. Biegel's football character is off-the-charts and he can be counted on to put the effort into improving in areas that need work. He lacks individual rush talent but could be a good fit for teams utilizing exotic rush packages. Average NFL ceiling but has the demeanor and traits of a potential special teams demon.
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sschind
7 years ago
Ted got that OLB from Wisconsin after all and he got him in the 4th round too. Everyone should be ecstatic. I'm afraid this poor kid will always be compared to the OLB from Wisconsin they should have drafted.

Of course when your top strength is Voted team captain what can you expect. I wonder what it says for Mr. irrelevant? Can tie his own shoes.
nerdmann
7 years ago

Ted got that OLB from Wisconsin and he got him in the 4th round too. Everyone should be ecstatic

Originally Posted by: sschind 



Fuck yeah!

Just got home and checked the site for the latest. I had him ranked much further down than Watt, but dude can play. I like it!
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gotarace
7 years ago
Vince has a non-stop motor and always ends up around the football. Hope he gets a little stronger with NFL training but his nose for the football and love for the game make this a solid choice in my eyes.
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shield4life
7 years ago
This guy reminds me of A.J. Hawk, solid pick up. He won't stand out but he won't kill you on the defense but he can tackle!
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blueleopard
7 years ago
The comparison is Frank Zombo?

Well, when Zombo was a rookie, we won the Super Bowl.
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nerdmann
7 years ago

The comparison is Frank Zombo?

Well, when Zombo was a rookie, we won the Super Bowl.

Originally Posted by: blueleopard 



I look at him as this year's Ricky Elmore. Only I think he can play.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
coltonja
7 years ago
Hard not to love this kid! Hope he can add something in our sub packages and special teams this year. I'm looking forward to Jayrone and Fackrell getting more time this year, so I hope Vince can enjoy some seasoning before being called on.
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Thanks to pack93z for the sig!!!
buckeyepackfan
7 years ago
In case anyone is interested, combine comparison.

Overall grade. Watt 5.88. Biegel 5.28
40yd........................4.69.............4.67
Bench press.........21reps..........21reps
Verticle...................37.0............33.5
Broad.....................128.0..........118.0
3cone........................6.79..........6.92
20yd shuttle.............4.13..........4.30

For what it is worth, not a huge difference.
First reaction.

I'll take Biegel and Kevin King!
I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!
Dulak
7 years ago

In case anyone is interested, combine comparison.

Overall grade. Watt 5.88. Biegel 5.28
40yd........................4.69.............4.67
Bench press.........21reps..........21reps
Verticle...................37.0............33.5
Broad.....................128.0..........118.0
3cone........................6.79..........6.92
20yd shuttle.............4.13..........4.30

For what it is worth, not a huge difference.
First reaction.

I'll take Biegel and Kevin King!

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



I agree - a tall corner and this guy sounds better ... watt got too much tv action and to live up too and that will be a distraction ... let this guy go get some
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