uffda udfa
7 years ago
The topic on the show, today, was...

If you had to break down a pie, and split up the credit between, MM, Ted Thompson and AR12, what would be your percentages?

LeRoy Butler checked in with the following answer...

MM= 0%... Aaron Rodgers= 0%... TT= 100%

Say, what? What? LeRoy not getting any HOF love must've caused him to lose his freaking mind! I listened to him and I'm not certain LeRoy wasn't impaired.

My percentages:

AR12= 80%

MM=10%

TT= 10%
UserPostedImage
Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


steveishere
7 years ago
It IS ridiculous that Butler gets 0 HOF consideration while Atwater and Lynch are finalists.

I don't know what percentages I would do but probably not that lopsided. Look at NO they have a great QB and can't even win 8 games 4 out of the last 5 seasons. 10% Ted Thompson would just be complete incompetence and he's not nearly that bad. He may not do enough but he at least does SOMETHING. Whatever % goes to Mike McCarthy I would knock down some just based on the fact that he keeps Capers around no matter what happens with the defense.
Cheesey
7 years ago

It IS ridiculous that Butler gets 0 HOF consideration while Atwater and Lynch are finalists.

I don't know what percentages I would do but probably not that lopsided. Look at NO they have a great QB and can't even win 8 games 4 out of the last 5 seasons. 10% Ted Thompson would just be complete incompetence and he's not nearly that bad. He may not do enough but he at least does SOMETHING. Whatever % goes to Mike McCarthy I would knock down some just based on the fact that he keeps Capers around no matter what happens with the defense.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



Doesn't some of the "Capers" blame belong on the heads of Mike Murphy and Ted too?
I mean, if the guy isn't getting it done, shouldn't the higher ups step in and DO something about it?

Without Aaron Rodgers, we would be at best a .500 team year in and year out.
UserPostedImage
uffda udfa
7 years ago

It IS ridiculous that Butler gets 0 HOF consideration while Atwater and Lynch are finalists.

I don't know what percentages I would do but probably not that lopsided. Look at NO they have a great QB and can't even win 8 games 4 out of the last 5 seasons. 10% Ted Thompson would just be complete incompetence and he's not nearly that bad. He may not do enough but he at least does SOMETHING. Whatever % goes to Mike McCarthy I would knock down some just based on the fact that he keeps Capers around no matter what happens with the defense.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



Comparing Brees to Rodgers is not a fair comparison in my view. Turnovers are the stat that is the biggest differentiator in wins and losses. Brees' INT percentage is 2.5. Aaron's is 1.5. (for fun Brady's is 1.8 and Manning's was 2.7)

Aaron is a truly, truly special QB. QB rating of over 104 for his career which I believe is still the highest in NFL history and the lowest INT%. We see him do things no other QB can do. Brees surely ain't close. To have what we have at QB is why we win. Ted did draft him. Credit due.

I just think Ted holds this team back in all sincerity and is not worthy of much credit for this entire team as it's heavily dependent on the QB position to win. I think Matt Millen could GM this team to a comparable mark with Rodgers as his QB. As for MM, I think almost any other NFL head coach could get these results. In fact, I honestly believe Aaron doesn't respect McCarthy in the same way Brett didn't respect Sherman. I think Aaron sees our GM like Brett did...a hindrance, and his HC the same way. Both impediments to SB championships, so it's hard for me to give them much more percentage of the success pie knowing most will completely disagree and that's fine.



UserPostedImage
Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


yooperfan
7 years ago
Leroy ain't that dumb.
I think he is saying Thompson deserves 100% of the credit for the Packers not being able to get over the hump.
Thompson keeps the Packers stuck in second gear with his rigid ideology.
McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers are doing the best they can under the circumstances.
uffda udfa
7 years ago

Leroy ain't that dumb.
I think he is saying Thompson deserves 100% of the credit for the Packers not being able to get over the hump.
Thompson keeps the Packers stuck in second gear with his rigid ideology.
McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers are doing the best they can under the circumstances.

Originally Posted by: yooperfan 



yoop...That would make much more sense but I actually listened to Butler. He said Ted was responsible for "all of 'em" so he gets all the credit. Or...Are you saying that he meant Ted was 100% responsible for our success therefore the lack of it, also? That's a very interesting thought.

UserPostedImage
Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


yooperfan
7 years ago

Are you saying that he meant Ted was 100% responsible for our success

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 


No.
I doubt that even the most boot licking Thompson supporter would believe that Thompson is 100% responsible for the Packers successes.
He is however responsible for the lack of talent at certain positions that keep the Packers from getting over the hump at a time when he has one of the finest quarterbacks ever to play the game under contract.

Fan Shout
Martha Careful (17h) : Amen Z2C, I hope all of you fathers have a terrific Fathers' Day. Be great fathers!!!
Zero2Cool (18h) : Happy Father's Day to the dad's
Zero2Cool (14-Jun) : YOU BROKE IT
buckeyepackfan (14-Jun) : Welcome to "The Dead Zone" may the only Packer News we hear is positive!!
buckeyepackfan (14-Jun) : Trevor Lawrence-5yr 275mil-200mil guaranteed. J-10VE is next.
Mucky Tundra (13-Jun) : @AaronWilson_NFL #Packers have signed first-round pick Jordan Morgan to $14.185 million deal that includes $7.135 million signing bonus
jdlax (11-Jun) : Hahaha hellllllll no, Sunday is king! It's those Thursday night games that hurt
Mucky Tundra (11-Jun) : @AndyHermanNFL Looks like Tucker Kraft is out of the sling. Progress!
Zero2Cool (11-Jun) : That's also my oldests birthday
Zero2Cool (11-Jun) : Thought it was I fucking hate SNF. I went what why it's consistently way better than any other game
Zero2Cool (11-Jun) : Whoa. I read that so wrong before Jared lol
wpr (10-Jun) : that's great jdlax
jdlax (10-Jun) : God I hate the Shithawks
jdlax (10-Jun) : Sunday Night fucking Football
jdlax (10-Jun) : I just got my tickets to represent in Seattle December 15th woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Martha Careful (9-Jun) : I really enjoyed game 1 of the Stanley Cup final. Sergei Bobrovsky G - FL was incredibly good.
Mucky Tundra (4-Jun) : *NFL
Mucky Tundra (4-Jun) : @ByRyanWood Pads or no pads, welcome to the N
Mucky Tundra (4-Jun) : @ByRyanWood Rashan Gary just steamrolled Jordan Morgan on a bull rush. Drove right over him to the ground.
Mucky Tundra (3-Jun) : God and a lot of money brought Reggie to GB
Mucky Tundra (3-Jun) : yep. became the highest paid defensive player in the league and 3rd highest behind Elway and Marino
Zero2Cool (3-Jun) : Packers signed second-round pick Javon Bullard
Zero2Cool (3-Jun) : Reggie White got something like 4 years $17m total right?
buckeyepackfan (3-Jun) : 110mil guaranteed!!!
Zero2Cool (3-Jun) : Justin Jefferson. 4/$140m ??? wow
Mucky Tundra (31-May) : @AndyHermanNFL Sean Rhyan getting some reps at center in walkthroughs. They are rotating guys everywhere.
Mucky Tundra (31-May) : or that might have been an individual drill thing
Mucky Tundra (31-May) : that was from the 29th but I've seen other combs (including Rhyan@C)
Mucky Tundra (31-May) : @ByRyanWood Without Elgton Jenkins and Zach Tom, #Packers starting OL: Rasheed Walker, Jordan Morgan, Josh Myers, Sean Rhyan, Andre Dillard.
Martha Careful (31-May) : I have never seen an OTA, but who is lining up at LT and RG with starters? or is it all individual drills?
Zero2Cool (30-May) : Bears are the first team to be selected for Hard Knocks
dfosterf (29-May) : Andy Herman and his Pack a day podcast put up GB strengths yesterday. This morning he did weaknesses. They are both very good.
Zero2Cool (25-May) : Yes.
beast (24-May) : Does he say what it is?
Zero2Cool (22-May) : Christian Watson believes he has discovered the root cause his soft-tissue leg injuries
Zero2Cool (22-May) : Savage played last half of season with tear in rotator cuff
Zero2Cool (22-May) : SISSIES!!!!
Mucky Tundra (22-May) : Sounds like both Kraft and Tom were injuried before OTAs began
buckeyepackfan (22-May) : Not serious but waiting for strength and conditioning coach referwnces.
buckeyepackfan (22-May) : Tom and Kraft both injured(pectoral muscle),
Zero2Cool (20-May) : I feel similar about person and product/service.
beast (17-May) : Not sure why a players views reflect on GB... instead of simply on the player
Martha Careful (17-May) : I bet some of us have had 6+ mRNA jabs, a UKR flag on our walls, and still think Fauci has a thread of integrity
Zero2Cool (16-May) : From what I've read, it's all Jets , not us.
CanPackFan (16-May) : Will there ever be a time when Rodgers' whacko views will not reflect on GB? He is the past, thank god.
Zero2Cool (16-May) : Jan 4th gonna be rough with that start time lol
Zero2Cool (16-May) : Packers schedule listed. Boom.
buckeyepackfan (15-May) : Let the leaks begin. Colts @ Packers week 2, Vikings @ Packers week 4
Zero2Cool (14-May) : WR Marquez Valdes-Scantling to Bills
Zero2Cool (14-May) : Jets and Aaron Rodgers open up on Monday Night Football,
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 12:00 PM
Vikings
Saturday, Jan 4 @ 11:00 PM
BEARS
Recent Topics
14h / Green Bay Packers Talk / earthquake

17h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

15-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

13-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

12-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

11-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

11-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

9-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

9-Jun / Around The NFL / beast

6-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

4-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

4-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

4-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / earthquake

3-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

2-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2024 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.