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7 years ago

Cullen Jenkins was not coming back. (we have had this discussion numerous times too lol) And we all know the real problem in the Packers defense was from Nick Collins absence, not Cullen Jenkins. I can't believe anyone (not implying anyone specific) could reasonably think differently.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Cullen was very upset with Ted. That was one of the first stories to come out about how Ted was cold and distant toward his players. I think Cullen wanted to leave because he didn't want to play for Thompson as he rubbed him wrong that badly.

steveishere is right...we have no middle class. Top heavy and not the results you need from your highest paid. We have to subsist on UDFA's because of the top heaviness and like he said...an injury to a top guy is exponentially damaging.


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TheKanataThrilla
7 years ago
Not reinforcing Nick Collins' neck with titanium. I do agree with Zero. The Collins injury created a huge problem for this team.

Taking so long to draft replacements(or FA) for Nick and a suitable person at ILB as well as addressing the TE problem. I know many on this board wanted Eric Kendricks. Not only does it suck not to have him, but the F'n Vikings got him.

I do think we should have cut Peppers last year. He got some sacks, but man that seemed like a huge waste of $$$.

I also think we are going to be late moving on from Clay. He makes too much money and just does not seem to have it at OLB (I really like him inside, but he doesn't want to play there and we can't pay that type money for ILB). I am not sure what his trade value is if any with his price tag/cap hit.
nerdmann
7 years ago

Not reinforcing Nick Collins' neck with titanium. I do agree with Zero. The Collins injury created a huge problem for this team.

Taking so long to draft replacements(or FA) for Nick and a suitable person at ILB as well as addressing the TE problem. I know many on this board wanted Eric Kendricks. Not only does it suck not to have him, but the F'n Vikings got him.

I do think we should have cut Peppers last year. He got some sacks, but man that seemed like a huge waste of $$$.

I also think we are going to be late moving on from Clay. He makes too much money and just does not seem to have it at OLB (I really like him inside, but he doesn't want to play there and we can't pay that type money for ILB). I am not sure what his trade value is if any with his price tag/cap hit.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 



Hands down injuries have cost this team more than all other factors combined. The same people who had Lacy this year and Monty last year plY thru their injuries, only to have them become season ending, have turned what could have been a dynasty into a Fart in the Wind.

Is it any wonder why these guys would rather go to a Yoga studio in De Pere? It's all about credibility man. Tony Horton has more of that than these trainers do.
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Zero2Cool
7 years ago

Is it any wonder why these guys would rather go to a Yoga studio in De Pere? It's all about credibility man. Tony Horton has more of that than these trainers do.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Athletes all work on their body's outside of the team. How many times do you need to hear this? You're not an idiot, you KNOW this something all athletes do, regardless of profession or team.

If athletes did NOT do this, we should be worried. The fact that they are getting additional outside assistance is a GOOD thing, it is NOT something to fucking condemn the Packers for!

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TheKanataThrilla
7 years ago
I remember hearing an interview with James Harrison. I believe he stated that he spends about $350K/year on body treatment. Things you do to keep yourself in the game.
nerdmann
7 years ago

Athletes all work on their body's outside of the team. How many times do you need to hear this? You're not an idiot, you KNOW this something all athletes do, regardless of profession or team.

If athletes did NOT do this, we should be worried. The fact that they are getting additional outside assistance is a GOOD thing, it is NOT something to fucking condemn the Packers for!

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I agree, it's a good thing.
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DoddPower
7 years ago
Letting Hayward go was absolutely a mistake, even if most of us agreed with it at the time. A full season has passed, so it's perfectly fair to look at that situation in hindsight. Who cares what us fans thought or think of the situation. Thompson is paid big money to know much more than us. He put too much faith in Randall, Rollins, and a concussion-prone Shields, and Hayward didn't get a huge contact anyway. Thompson had to know that Shields was one concussion away from never playing again. Even if Randall and Rollins player better, that's still not enough depth. Can't let young, talented, and reasonably affordable players get away, especially at a premium position. He simply put way too much faith in a concussion-proned player and two sophomore players that frankly had very up and down rookie seasons to begin with.

Letting Hayward go was a big mistake. No other way to put it.
nerdmann
7 years ago

Letting Hayward go was absolutely a mistake, even if most of us agreed with it at the time. A full season has passed, so it's perfectly fair to look at that situation in hindsight. Who cares what us fans thought or think of the situation. Thompson is paid big money to know much more than us. He put too much faith in Randall, Rollins, and a concussion-prone Shields, and Hayward didn't get a huge contact anyway. Thompson had to know that Shields was one concussion away from never playing again. Even if Randall and Rollins player better, that's still not enough depth. Can't let young, talented, and reasonably affordable players get away, especially at a premium position. He simply put way too much faith in a concussion-proned player and two sophomore players that frankly had very up and down rookie seasons to begin with.

Letting Hayward go was a big mistake. No other way to put it.

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Couldn't stay healthy here. Suddenly he's doing great.
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