MintBaconDrivel
8 years ago
John Dorsey or Eliot Wolf?

The Packers are going to keep at least one of their top personnel lieutenants, but the future of their General Manager job could be decided from outside the organization.

With Eliot Wolf pulling out of the derby to become the 49ers General Manager and Brian Gutekunst reportedly the favorite for the job, one of the potential heirs to Packers G.M. Ted Thompson’s job will remain.

But according to Bob McGinn of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, the “best bet” for Thompson’s replacement could be Chiefs G.M. John Dorsey.

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uffda udfa
8 years ago
Don't forget Trent Baalke. Unbelievable amount of activity and talk about the top of our food chain.

Would love to see John Dorsey come back into the fold.

So excited to get things shaken up in our hierarchy. Been waiting a long time for this.
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Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


beast
8 years ago

So excited to get things shaken up in our hierarchy. Been waiting a long time for this.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



I can't wait for you to hate on the next group as much as you hate on this group. ...

The grass is always appears to be greener on the other side...
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beast
8 years ago

John Dorsey or Eliot Wolf?

Originally Posted by: MintBaconDrivel 



Why would Dorsey be leaving the Chiefs again?
Could be location, team ,or Rodgers. ...

But also could be Dorset wanting a higher offer from his team just like a lot of scouts just got from the 49ers search option...
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uffda udfa
8 years ago

I can't wait for you to hate on the next group as much as you hate on this group. ...

The grass is always appears to be greener on the other side...

Originally Posted by: beast 



I loved Wolf/Holmgren. This duo leaves a lot to be desired.

Would be very surprised to feel about next tandem as I do this one as it's about mindset. Next group by default has to be more aggressive about winning Championships.
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Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


beast
8 years ago

I loved Wolf/Holmgren. This duo leaves a lot to be desired.

Would be very surprised to feel about next tandem as I do this one as it's about mindset. Next group by default has to be more aggressive about winning Championships.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 



Yeah but more aggressive doesn't automatically mean better. .. a lot of GM have gone bust being aggressive.

Mike Sherman was more aggressive... did you like him more than Thompson as GM?
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uffda udfa
8 years ago
I would've loved him but he lacked confidence and intelligence. BJ Sander will forever haunt his tenure.

Appreciated his aggression. I have consistently said I like intelligence and aggression. Stupid and aggressive is less preferable than Ted's flatline approach.

Never forget that Sherman's record was in line with our greatest coaches until Ted gutted us to justify firing Sherman. Ted just said today he wouldn't have fired MM based off one year. He was full of irony today.

Why must we play these games? We need a more aggressive approach whether we win it all this year or not.

Sherman went to the playoffs 4 of his 6 seasons here including 4 straight. Missed his first season going 9-7 and the aberrant last season. Had a 2-4 record in the playoffs. He wasn't good enough. He is much harder to judge given he had dual roles. May have been a lot better as simply the GM. We'll never know. Like MM his team's gagged in big moments. 4th and 26. Fun times.
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Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


beast
8 years ago

Never forget that Sherman's record was in line with our greatest coaches until Ted gutted us to justify firing Sherman. Ted just said today he wouldn't have fired Mike McCarthy based off one year. He was full of irony today.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa 


Once again you are misleading to the point of straight up lies.

Sherman kept borrowing money from future cap amounts and got the team into cap hell just like Al Davis did with the Raiders and the Saints did to win their most recent Super Bowl....

At that point you have two choices... keep doing it like the Saints have and be forced to trade away star players that you can't afford to keep, while being aggressive and at a disadvantage because you can't afford enough good pieces to go around the few star players that you keep.

Or gut it as you put it, and Ted Thompson and the Raiders (post Al Davis) have done.

It had nothing to do with justifing a firing, and I think the Packers President said he was surprised when Thompson kept him that first year... and media has suggested the reason Sherman was fired was because he refused to talk or communicate with Thompson. McCarthy has been willing to talk with Thompson, even though McCarthy has suggested it sometimes feels like it falls on deaf ears (MM said it with a laugh, when talking about how he used to make FA list he was interested in every year... and I think he says he still does but maybe does not expect much anymore like he used too )
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uffda udfa
8 years ago

Once again you are misleading to the point of straight up lies.

Sherman kept borrowing money from future cap amounts and got the team into cap hell just like Al Davis did with the Raiders and the Saints did to win their most recent Super Bowl....

At that point you have two choices... keep doing it like the Saints have and be forced to trade away star players that you can't afford to keep, while being aggressive and at a disadvantage because you can't afford enough good pieces to go around the few star players that you keep.

Or gut it as you put it, and Ted Thompson and the Raiders (post Al Davis) have done.

It had nothing to do with justifing a firing, and I think the Packers President said he was surprised when Thompson kept him that first year... and media has suggested the reason Sherman was fired was because he refused to talk or communicate with Thompson. McCarthy has been willing to talk with Thompson, even though McCarthy has suggested it sometimes feels like it falls on deaf ears (MM said it with a laugh, when talking about how he used to make FA list he was interested in every year... and I think he says he still does but maybe does not expect much anymore like he used too )

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Nothing was misrepresented. You have spun it your way. The team was gutted to justify firing him. He said today he wasn't going to fire MM based off one year. Why fire a guy with a winning percentage that rivaled the greatest coaches we've ever had. Ted forced trash players on him, ones he would've never played with himself. He goes 4-12 and gets fired after one bad year with Taco Wallace at WR?

That's not consistent with what Ted said today. It makes it even more so that Ted didn't gut MM's players this year and was never going to think about firing him after one bad season so how does he purposely punish Sherman and then fire him after one bad season?


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hardrocker950
8 years ago

Yeah but more aggressive doesn't automatically mean better. .. a lot of GM have gone bust being aggressive.

Mike Sherman was more aggressive... did you like him more than Thompson as GM?

Originally Posted by: beast 



I think our front office could be a bit more aggressive - but you are right, too much of anything is bad.
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