Barfarn
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8 years ago
McAdoo knows us; knows our TE game inside out; but Mike is his daddy and schooled him in their first meeting in October. McCarthy took what McAdoo knew and used it against him.

No staff does better than Mike’s staff after a bye. And GB crushed NY after the bye even with Doppelganger Wigglesworth at QB. This means GB has had 3 weeks to prepare for NY and NY has only had 2 for GB. Also, from 3 weeks ago, it was very predictable that if we made POs we’d be a #4 seed and NYG would be #5. Surely, the staff did some work on NY and maybe even devoted a little practice time to prepare for NY because the last 3 weeks GB played division opponents, who the staff and team know well and needed less time to prepare for them.

In Oct. Nelson had 3 huge drops, one bounced off hands for an INT at the 5-that’s not happenin’ again. The OL was dominant, no sacks and 5 pressures and now Taylor [3 pressures] is better and NY’s #1 and #3 DEs are not playing. Spagnola only blitzed 10% in 1st game; if he tries more Rodgers will make him pay. Of the NYPD, DRC was hobbled in 1st game, this one Jenkins is hobbled, advantage GB. Cobb had a big game in Oct., but Apple only played a handful of snaps, now he’s better, he’ll be outside and DRC will cover Cobb in slot, Cobb if healthy would be a nice match-up v. DRC. Hall is their 4th cover guy, so in 3WR set whether it’s Monty out of backfield or Cook/Rodgers in slot Hall can be torched every play. Also, I see some 4 WR with Allison and Adams outside; Nelson, Cobb in slot, whoever Hall covers is auto-open. Oh and Collins cant cover in slot either. And love to see some more wheel routes with Allison out of the slot on the 4 WR set. All in all coverage don’t matter, because there is no defense against the perfect pass. There’s no wind, so Rodgers will be just about perfect with the protection he’s gonna get.

Also in 1st game we played effectively TightEnd-less. We didn’t have Cook and R.Rodgers played like Doppleganger Wigglesworth Jr., he really sucked, it was his worst game ever. So, it is like we got 2 TEs we didn’t have in Oct.

In Oct. we ran at will against them 27-132, and Rip, Michael and Monty are better than Lacy [11 carries] and Starks [12]. Plus NY has lost some rotational DL depth.

The up-tempo is a weapon as powerful as bringing in Jerry Rice and Don Hutson off the bench. Mike saved it for 1st drive in 2nd half in Detroit. Anytime we decide to use it is almost a certainty we will score! But, the depleted D prevents Mike from running it 24/7.

Vegas has Schum to be inactive at 4 to 1, smart $$ says we’re just not gonna need him.


In Oct. our D played its best game. It’s like when you ditched school returned home and dad was there tapping the switch in his hand and you’re wondering who does he know. Mike is McAdoo’s daddy, he knows what Ben’s gonna do before Ben does and Mike has tuned in Capers. In Oct. we controlled the run and now our DL is better as Lowry, Clark and Ringo are better [Pennell didn’t play in Oct. either]. Ryan, Thomas and Martinez are not as healthy; but this should be offset because of the experience these youngsters gained over last 12 games. Yes, Perkins is better, but our front 7 will contain him.

NY’s best OT is Marshall Newhouse; nuff said; though they’re decent inside. Daniels will get his push inside and Perry, Peppers and CM3 are going into playoff mode. Peppers will be letting the team know, he wants his damn ring.

In Oct. Hyde, Rollins, Gunter, Burnett and Dix played 100% of the snaps. We played dime for 15 plays and DB-6 was Brice. Brice is a lot better than he was in week 5. The GBPD is missing Rollins. Randall, who didn’t play, replaces Rollins, but this is a solid downgrade as Randall is hobbled and doesn’t play well in the cold. But, we could play with 6 Herb Waters and it won’t matter because Eli can’t throw in the cold. We played a lot of 2 deep in 1st game; Elisha’s [that’s actually his name] gonna see more of that. This minimizes the affect of bad under CB play. If Randall cant go or is bad. In the nickel GB has a choice: move Hyde to edge, Burnett to slot and Brice to safety; or bring Hawkins in on the edge. I like the idea of Hawkins, he’s fast enough to be aggressively on OBJ with Brice over the top; but this will only work w/ OBJ to NY right because GB’s not moving Gunter. If OBJ goes left and he’s bracketed, that will leave Hawkins mostly man on Cruz. So I’m guessing GB goes with Hyde outside. Then they bracket OBJ, and whichever of Hyde and Gunter not covering OBJ can both handle Cruz, then Burnett can easily cover Sheppard.


In Oct. Hyde was all pro, he was Charles Woodson. He was great at blanketing Sheppard in slot 7Trg-2-14 and he would run blitz with Thomas or Dix picking up Sheppard. NY will try to catch GB on this switch on Sunday. So let’s hope Randall can hold up so Hyde can stay in slot.

The TE got away twice in Oct. once because Martinez bit on play action and 2nd one was a miscommunication between Ryan and Thomas, which would have been a long TD, but for Elisha sucking. NY will work to try to exploit this on Sunday.

They know Elisha wont be accurate on longer throws, so another area I expect NY to show some unscouted looks is with passes to Perkins out of backfield. Our ILBs are going to have to be vigilant.

Ed Hochuli’s crew is reffing. GB is 0-5 in playoffs with Hochuli reffing; but he was reffing in Oct. game.

The Weather Gods are kind! Temp during game 10-12; winds during game: 7-9mph.

This is perfect weather!!!! Nawlins/Mississippi boy Elisha is definitely worse on games 21-40 degrees, 7 passer rating points lower on average per this article  of 1-31-14. But, under 32, he is really bad.

Manning said a few years ago that he liked the idea of a cold weather superbowl. No QB wants cold, so the only QB saying this is one terrified of the cold. Here’s from what I can tell all Eli’s games under 32 deg. That’s a 51.2 passer rating. His best game, was against Favre.

1-20-08 @GB...........-1 deg, 12mph.........21-40-251-0-0-72
12-27-15 @ Minn......12 deg, 8mph.........15-29-234-1-3-50.7
12-26-04 @ Cinn......24 deg., 3mph.........19-37-201-0-1-56.2
12-26-10 @ GB .........25 deg, 5mph.........17-33-301-2-4-63.6
12-18-11 v. Wash.....29 deg, 9mph..........23-40-257-0-3-45.5
12-4-05 v. Dallas.....30 deg, 7mph..........12-31-152-0-2-27.9
Smokey
8 years ago
Wow that is a long post !

Is there a short version of that ? Like, I believe the Packers will defeat the Giants.

[cheers]

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gbguy20
8 years ago
Nice analysis. Thanks. What was Elis stat line the last 2 times we saw him in the playoffs?
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Zero2Cool
8 years ago

Ed Hochuli’s crew is reffing.GB is 0-5 in playoffs with Hochuli reffing; but he was reffing in Oct. game.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 



What five games did he referee? I've only found two games. The 49ers game from 2013 season and Eagles from 2003 season.

Hochuli has reffed 21 games with the Packers. Packers won 11 of them.

Here's all the games and the highlighted ones are the playoff games.

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Date	Tm	Pts	Pen	Yds	Opp	Pos	PtsO	Pen	Yds	Winner
Sunday, November 11, 2001	Chicago Bears	12	1	15	Green Bay Packers	Referee	20	7	50	Green Bay Packers
Monday, October 7, 2002	Chicago Bears	21	7	65	Green Bay Packers	Referee	34	5	49	Green Bay Packers
Sunday, December 7, 2003	Green Bay Packers	34	8	57	Chicago Bears	Referee	21	5	45	Green Bay Packers
Sunday, January 11, 2004	Philadelphia Eagles	20	3	25	Green Bay Packers	Referee	17	6	45	Philadelphia Eagles
Sunday, September 26, 2004	Indianapolis Colts	45	9	70	Green Bay Packers	Referee	31	11	84	Indianapolis Colts
Sunday, December 19, 2004	Green Bay Packers	25	12	101	Jacksonville Jaguars	Referee	28	7	85	Jacksonville Jaguars
Sunday, November 6, 2005	Green Bay Packers	10	8	74	Pittsburgh Steelers	Referee	20	4	53	Pittsburgh Steelers
Sunday, December 17, 2006	Green Bay Packers	17	9	69	Detroit Lions	Referee	9	6	37	Green Bay Packers
Sunday, September 30, 2007	Minnesota Vikings	16	7	40	Green Bay Packers	Referee	23	6	40	Green Bay Packers
Sunday, December 9, 2007	Green Bay Packers	38	9	84	Oakland Raiders	Referee	7	9	62	Green Bay Packers
Sunday, December 28, 2008	Green Bay Packers	31	6	60	Detroit Lions	Referee	21	5	60	Green Bay Packers
Sunday, September 20, 2009	Green Bay Packers	24	11	76	Cincinnati Bengals	Referee	31	13	100	Cincinnati Bengals
Sunday, October 17, 2010	Green Bay Packers	20	7	45	Miami Dolphins	Referee	23	4	30	Miami Dolphins
Sunday, December 19, 2010	New England Patriots	31	7	52	Green Bay Packers	Referee	27	2	15	New England Patriots
Sunday, October 16, 2011	Green Bay Packers	24	3	16	St. Louis Rams	Referee	3	7	45	Green Bay Packers
Sunday, December 2, 2012	Green Bay Packers	23	10	78	Minnesota Vikings	Referee	14	5	48	Green Bay Packers
Sunday, January 5, 2014	Green Bay Packers	20	3	20	San Francisco 49ers	Referee	23	2	10	San Francisco 49ers
Sunday, October 26, 2014	New Orleans Saints	44	4	35	Green Bay Packers	Referee	23	8	84	New Orleans Saints
Sunday, November 30, 2014	Green Bay Packers	26	4	22	New England Patriots	Referee	21	4	25	Green Bay Packers
Thursday, November 26, 2015	Green Bay Packers	13	3	38	Chicago Bears	Referee	17	12	95	Chicago Bears
Sunday, October 9, 2016	Green Bay Packers	23	6	57	New York Giants	Referee	16	6	51	Green Bay Packers

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Barfarn
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8 years ago

What five games did he referee? I've only found two games. The 49ers game from 2013 season and Eagles from 2003 season.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



There was also SB 32 [Denver] and a couple of Dallas PO games [The '95 champ game on 1-14-96 and '94 Divisional Playoffs 1-8-95]
Zero2Cool
8 years ago

There was also SB 32 [Denver] and a couple of Dallas PO games [The '95 champ game on 1-14-96 and '94 Divisional Playoffs 1-8-95]

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 



The stuff I got goes back to '99 but yes the Super Bowl was number three. I can't find the other ones you mentioned.

Through the 9 games Eli Manning with the temperature below 32 degrees. His best game was against the 2011 Packers. That's a whopping 62.1 rating.

6 games against other teams, 52.2% completion and 53.5 rating.
3 games against Packers, 55.6% completion and 78.5 rating. All three games at Lambeau Field.


Basically, looks like Eli will toss some clunkers up there. Packers just gotta come down with them.


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