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Zero2Cool
Elite Member Topic Starter

8 years ago

When I wrote this, I thought we would have Clay Matthews back and thought our CB's were going to return soon after Jared Cook as well. And the Packers had their offensive heads pulled out of their asses. It's been a long time since I was so discouraged by the product on the field. Losing while playing your asses off is one thing. Losing because you keep going away from what works? That just pisses me off.

Davante Adams has always been able to get good separation and that's why he gets targets. Last season he was hurt and should have sat, but toughed it out and played like a piece of shit. He's healthy and got his head straight and just balling like mad crazy. Hopefully he keeps it up because he is going to get dinged again and if he acts like a mental midget and lets it affect him, we are doomed, wait, I think we already are anyway.

The whole 21 personnel groupings for a game is just stupid, in my thoughts. You gotta roll a package with Jordy Nelson, Adams, Cobb and Montgomery. RB's and TE's for protection and a safety valve. I am telling you, no team is going to be able to stop them four every single drive. The kicker here is Aaron Rodgers has to throw to the OPEN guy, not the predetermined WR he wants to throw to before hand.

I'm surely wrong on this, but it feels like Aaron is not processing things live and is just using his pre-snap reads as the sole decision making process when going through progressions.

DarkaneRules
Veteran Member

8 years ago

#22

Each week we're getting worse and it's pretty obvious to see. It's a damn shame too. This offense needs its swagger back.

Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance

Barfarn
Senior Member

8 years ago

#23

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

Very good post.

Dont like the "protection and safety valve" thing. This allows the D to use one player to both spy on Rodgers and cover the safety valve receiver.

Obviously, there is no one thing that Rodgers is doing wrong each time, it is a vast cornucopia of things. But now that you mention him deciding pre-snap where to throw and ignoring what happens live, this would explain sometimes why he'll for example, skip progression one, stare down progression 2 too long and if he doesn't throw to 2, he's late to progression 3. He threw an interception v. Colts doing exactly this and had he not thrown to Adams who was 2nd read, he'd have been late for #3 read.

One of the innate brilliances of McCarthy's scheme is that built into the logic of most play designs is where the QB looks on his early reads is designed to affect position and reaction time of the D for subsequent reads. When Rodgers stares down the #2 read when he's supposed to be looking at the #1 read, like the INT above, it gives the D and extra jump. This extra jump reduces separation from DB, allows DL more time to get in throwing lane, increases odds that a route will be jumped for INT and/or, maybe worst of all, will allow a safety or LB to draw a bead and have more momentum to guillotine the receiver during or right after the catch, which increases the odds of fumbles and injury.

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Zero2Cool (24m) : I guess 3 games. Whatever

Zero2Cool (38m) : Bleh, that only impacts two games.

Zero2Cool (45m) : Packers are gonna get 3rd place division schedule next year.

Mucky Tundra (1h) : Kanata, seek help! lol

beast (3h) : I was rooting for the Bears to win and hurt their draft pick status

Zero2Cool (3h) : Forgot there was even a game last night haha

TheKanataThrilla (4h) : That was terrible.

TheKanataThrilla (4h) : Watching that game in its entirety yesterday is proof positive that I am a football addict.

beast (4h) : And horrible time management multiple times... and not being able to score more than 3 points on a team with talent

beast (4h) : Realizing the Bears didn't fix it from the previous week and do the same thing, getting the game to overtime

beast (4h) : They probably are not tanking, but they've absolutely mismanagement some things, such as Vikings seeing the Packers blocked FG and realizing

Zero2Cool (5h) : Crazy of Bears to have that mindset that is

Zero2Cool (5h) : Hail Mary stop away from 5 - 2. Not sure how that flips to tanking. Crazy mindset if true

beast (6h) : I've quietly questioned if Bears are tanking on purpose... they suddenly got a lot worse with some simple concepts like 101 clock management

wpr (8h) : Watching bares fans melt down over how putrid their team is, so enjoyable. It's the gift that keeps on giving.

Mucky Tundra (15h) : The Seattle Seahawks defeat the Chicago Bears 6-3. Jason Myers had 6 RBIs for Seattle while Cairo Santos had 3 RBI for Chicago

beast (16h) : Not nessarily, he might of been injured either way. He's playing about 50% of the games the last 4 years

Zero2Cool (23h) : If they'd been more patient with him, he'd be back already. Putting him out there vs Bears caused him to tweak it and here we are.

packerfanoutwest (23h) : well this is his last season with the PAck, book it

beast (26-Dec) : Sounds like no Alexander (again), I'm wondering if his time with the Packers is done

Zero2Cool (26-Dec) : Could ban beast and I still don't think anyone catches him.

Mucky Tundra (26-Dec) : Houston getting dog walked by Baltimore

packerfanoutwest (25-Dec) : Feliz Navidad!

Zero2Cool (25-Dec) : Merry Christmas!

beast (25-Dec) : Merry Christmas 🎄🎁

beast (24-Dec) : Sounds like no serious injuries from the Saints game and Jacobs and Watson should play in the Vikings game

packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : both games Watson missed, Packers won

Martha Careful (24-Dec) : I hope all of you have a Merry Christmas!

Mucky Tundra (24-Dec) : Oh I know about Jacobs, I just couldn't pass up an opportunity to mimic Zero lol

buckeyepackfan (24-Dec) : Jacobs was just sat down, Watson re-injured that knee that kept him out 1 game earlier

buckeyepackfan (24-Dec) : I needed .14 that's. .14 points for the whole 4th quarter to win and go to the SB. Lol

Mucky Tundra (24-Dec) : Jacobs gonna be OK???

Zero2Cool (24-Dec) : Watson gonna be OK???

packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : Inactives tonight for the Pack: Alexander- knee Bullard - ankle Williams - quad Walker -ankle Monk Heath

packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : No Jaire, but hopefully the front 7 destroys the line of scrimmage & forces Rattler into a few passes to McKinney.

packerfanoutwest (24-Dec) : minny could be #1 seed and the Lions #5 seed

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : We'd have same Division and Conference records. Strength of schedule we edge them

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I just checked. What tie breaker?

bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes its possible but unlikely. If we do get the 5th, we face the NFCS winner

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : Ahh, ok.

bboystyle (23-Dec) : yes due to tie breaker

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I mean, unlikely, yes, but mathematically, 5th is possible by what I'm reading.

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : If Vikings lose out, Packers win out, Packers get 5th, right?

bboystyle (23-Dec) : Minny isnt going to lose out so 5th seed is out of the equation. We are playing for the 6th or 7th seed which makes no difference

Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, the ad revenue goes to the broadcast company but they gotta pay to air the game on their channel/network

beast (23-Dec) : If we win tonight the game is still relative in terms of 5th, 6th or 7th seed... win and it's 5th or 6th, lose and it's 6th or 7th

beast (23-Dec) : Mucky, I thought the ad revenue went to the broadcasting companies or the NFL, at least not directly

Zero2Cool (23-Dec) : I think the revenue share is moot, isn't it? That's the CBA an Salary Cap handling that.

bboystyle (23-Dec) : i mean game becomes irrelevant if we win tonight. Just a game where we are trying to play spoilers to Vikings chance at the #1 seed

Mucky Tundra (23-Dec) : beast, I would guess ad revenue from more eyes watching tv

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