Zero2Cool
8 years ago
When I wrote this, I thought we would have Clay Matthews back and thought our CB's were going to return soon after Jared Cook as well. And the Packers had their offensive heads pulled out of their asses. It's been a long time since I was so discouraged by the product on the field. Losing while playing your asses off is one thing. Losing because you keep going away from what works? That just pisses me off.

Davante Adams has always been able to get good separation and that's why he gets targets. Last season he was hurt and should have sat, but toughed it out and played like a piece of shit. He's healthy and got his head straight and just balling like mad crazy. Hopefully he keeps it up because he is going to get dinged again and if he acts like a mental midget and lets it affect him, we are doomed, wait, I think we already are anyway.

The whole 21 personnel groupings for a game is just stupid, in my thoughts. You gotta roll a package with Jordy Nelson, Adams, Cobb and Montgomery. RB's and TE's for protection and a safety valve. I am telling you, no team is going to be able to stop them four every single drive. The kicker here is Aaron Rodgers has to throw to the OPEN guy, not the predetermined WR he wants to throw to before hand.

I'm surely wrong on this, but it feels like Aaron is not processing things live and is just using his pre-snap reads as the sole decision making process when going through progressions.

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DarkaneRules
8 years ago
Each week we're getting worse and it's pretty obvious to see. It's a damn shame too. This offense needs its swagger back.
Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance
Barfarn
8 years ago

When I wrote this, I thought we would have Clay Matthews back and thought our CB's were going to return soon after Jared Cook as well. And the Packers had their offensive heads pulled out of their asses. It's been a long time since I was so discouraged by the product on the field. Losing while playing your asses off is one thing. Losing because you keep going away from what works? That just pisses me off.

Davante Adams has always been able to get good separation and that's why he gets targets. Last season he was hurt and should have sat, but toughed it out and played like a piece of shit. He's healthy and got his head straight and just balling like mad crazy. Hopefully he keeps it up because he is going to get dinged again and if he acts like a mental midget and lets it affect him, we are doomed, wait, I think we already are anyway.

The whole 21 personnel groupings for a game is just stupid, in my thoughts. You gotta roll a package with Jordy Nelson, Adams, Cobb and Montgomery. RB's and TE's for protection and a safety valve. I am telling you, no team is going to be able to stop them four every single drive. The kicker here is Aaron Rodgers has to throw to the OPEN guy, not the predetermined WR he wants to throw to before hand.

I'm surely wrong on this, but it feels like Aaron is not processing things live and is just using his pre-snap reads as the sole decision making process when going through progressions.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Very good post.

Dont like the "protection and safety valve" thing. This allows the D to use one player to both spy on Rodgers and cover the safety valve receiver.

Obviously, there is no one thing that Rodgers is doing wrong each time, it is a vast cornucopia of things. But now that you mention him deciding pre-snap where to throw and ignoring what happens live, this would explain sometimes why he'll for example, skip progression one, stare down progression 2 too long and if he doesn't throw to 2, he's late to progression 3. He threw an interception v. Colts doing exactly this and had he not thrown to Adams who was 2nd read, he'd have been late for #3 read.

One of the innate brilliances of McCarthy's scheme is that built into the logic of most play designs is where the QB looks on his early reads is designed to affect position and reaction time of the D for subsequent reads. When Rodgers stares down the #2 read when he's supposed to be looking at the #1 read, like the INT above, it gives the D and extra jump. This extra jump reduces separation from DB, allows DL more time to get in throwing lane, increases odds that a route will be jumped for INT and/or, maybe worst of all, will allow a safety or LB to draw a bead and have more momentum to guillotine the receiver during or right after the catch, which increases the odds of fumbles and injury.
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packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : the totals are accurate..nrvrtmind
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