MintBaconDrivel
8 years ago
Any truth to this?

There's a conspiracy theory floating around on Twitter suggesting that Aaron Rodgers' extended slump has been caused by the NFL paying more attention to the PSI levels of footballs.



Rodgers, (2005-2014):
COMP%: 65.8
YD/ATT: 8.2
Rating: 106.0

Rodgers, (2015-present):
COMP%: 60.6
YD/ATT: 6.6
Rating: 91.7

You may remember, Rodgers came to Brady's defense during the PSI investigation, and he apparently told Phil Simms that he, too, likes to play with the PSI level of footballs:

"[Rodgers] said something [that] was unique: 'I like to push the limit to how much air we can put in the football, even go over what they allow you to do and see if the officials take air out of it.' Because he thinks it's easier for him to grip. He likes them tight. Of course, he's got very big hands and you can tell that by watching him play."

Steven Ruiz wrote:





http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ftw/2016/10/18/theres-a-hilarious-deflategate-theory-that-explains-aaron-rodgers-slump/92373794/ 


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Laser Gunns
8 years ago
The ball PSI isn't going to make him ignore the open check down

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beast
8 years ago

The ball PSI isn't going to make him ignore the open check down

Originally Posted by: Laser Gunns 


No, but his balls could be more deflated, and therefore less aggressive and not as quick to get the football out on time.
And someone else is looking a bit more aggressive in one of the pictures.
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Smokey
8 years ago

No, but his balls could be more deflated, and therefore less aggressive and not as quick to get the football out on time.
And someone else is looking a bit more aggressive in one of the pictures.
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Originally Posted by: beast 



I'd like to know how to post pictures as clean as you do. Is there a step by step process ?

The PSI in the footballs is not a factor IMO.
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mi_keys
8 years ago
Through the first 6 weeks of 2015, all post deflate-gate, Rodgers had produced as follows:

Comp: 124
Att: 182
Pct: 68.1%
Yds: 1,491
Avg: 8.2
TD: 15
INT: 2
Rating: 115.9

That included games against Seattle and Kansas City, both top ten defenses last year.

He looked like himself and produced like himself those first six games last year. So unless they didn't change anything about the PSI until after the bye, the PSI explanation doesn't appear to fit with the timing of Aaron's drop off.
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yooperfan
8 years ago
Some people are grasping at straws trying to justify his collapse.
coltonja
8 years ago

Some people are grasping at straws trying to justify his collapse.

Originally Posted by: yooperfan 



Well said. Our tendency is to speak in hyperbole after every defeat and remain critical in every win. But that's because we expect success from this franchise, unlike many other organizations' followers in this league.

As for the PSI suggestion. I remember only a few things from my time studying in university. One of them is correlation is not causation. That may apply here!
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Zero2Cool
8 years ago
If other quarterbacks had similar drops, maybe, but I haven't seen it affect anyone else. Im more inclined to believe Kurt Warner.


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beast
8 years ago

Im more inclined to believe Kurt Warner.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



And Kurt is basically just agreeing with me 👍

That brings up another point... some of the reason the Packers passing game is struggling is because Rodgers won't throw it until he sees and knows that you got open... he's not throwing before the break trusting WRs, he's waiting to see it... which ruins some of the timing of when guys get open via good route running and QBs have to throw it as the WR is making their cut/break.

Originally Posted by: beast 




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wpr
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8 years ago
Probably more of a PMS issue instead or a PMI issue. That or what Beast says. It could go either way. đŸ€·
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