Porforis
8 years ago

We're obviously discussing in hindsight, but that's what one does to learn lessons for the future. I didn't necessarily mind Hayward leaving, but several people complained about Peppers salary. Michael Rodney also was in favor of keeping Hayward under the "you just don't let a good young CB go." Moreover, it was just a general statement that Peppers money could undoubtedly be better spent elsewhere. Peppers is done.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



To be fair, people also often complain that Teddy doesn't go out and get veteran free agents. Not that Hayward was super young or anything, but Peppers is the definition of a veteran.
DakotaT
8 years ago

To be fair, people also often complain that Teddy doesn't go out and get veteran free agents. Not that Hayward was super young or anything, but Peppers is the definition of a veteran.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



To use Julius Peppers in this argument, we should have gone and gotten him before he ever played for the Bears. Not after the Bears used the shit out of him. But that would have cost a boatload of money, which is the argument most of us that would like to see a splash free agent make every spring. Julius Peppers was on his last legs, but he has given us more than most thought possible. I would imagine his snap count is being held down to keep him fresh for playoff pass rushing.
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DoddPower
8 years ago

To be fair, people also often complain that Teddy doesn't go out and get veteran free agents. Not that Hayward was super young or anything, but Peppers is the definition of a veteran.

Originally Posted by: Porforis 



Peppers was definitely a good signing. I just don't think he's much more than a situational #3/4 player at best at this point, with the exception of a few splash plays a season followed by lots of disappearing. I would have rather he restructure his contract, ideally.
DoddPower
8 years ago

I thought we liked Julius Peppers and when his contract was signed we felt it was a fair deal? We do not feel that way anymore?

I wonder if in some peoples eyes the rookie season Hayward had gave him unrealistic expectations and therefore we soured on him sooner than we should have. I thought when he was healthy he was solid in the slot. Did we get a compensatory pick for him?

I want to say this "Casey Hayward signed a 3 year, $15,300,000 contract" seems like a lot for a CB3. But, I can see the flip side of not having too many good CB's. I would rather a more punishing Defensive front than ball hawking secondary myself.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I liked it at the time. Things change fast in the NFL though, especially for older players. He's just pretty expensive now. Also, would Casey Hayward be the #3 CB on the Packers this season? He's been playing pretty well this season matched up against some good players. Have you watched?

With the way Randall and Rollins have been playing, he would likely be the next best corner after Shields, and possibly the best with the injury situation. Gunter is impressing, but he still needs to improve, and the jury is still very much out on Rollins and Randall. With the injury concerns for Shields, the Packers will likely need to draft another CB in the first 3-4 rounds next season anyway, and will likely only get a 5th for Hayward.

I didn't have a big problem letting him go, but based on how he's been playing this season, he would be nice to have around. It looks like he's improved a little bit more. I'm not basing this off his rookie season. I always thought he was overvalued because of that season. A few of those interceptions were literally thrown directly to him. But at least he caught him, which the Packers seem to be struggling with this season.
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