nerdmann
8 years ago

One thing to remember is none of us fans know what play was called and what his progressions are supposed to be on the play. Not only do receivers need to get open, they need to get open at the right time for the play design. With video start to finish of a play we can make "educated guess" on what we think was supposed to happen.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



Interesting statistics from this Giants game:

Aaron Rodgers QB rating when getting the ball out in UNDER 2.5: 103.2

Aaron Rodgers QB rating when getting the ball out in OVER 2.5: 40.9
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
PackFanWithTwins
8 years ago

Interesting statistics from this Giants game:

Aaron Rodgers QB rating when getting the ball out in UNDER 2.5: 103.2

Aaron Rodgers QB rating when getting the ball out in OVER 2.5: 40.9

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



So when receivers are open the passing rating is better.

Fascinating.
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nerdmann
8 years ago

So when receivers are open the passing rating is better.

Fascinating.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



Yeah, Aaron never holds the ball unnecessarily. Thanks for your input.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
hardrocker950
8 years ago

One thing to remember is none of us fans know what play was called and what his progressions are supposed to be on the play. Not only do receivers need to get open, they need to get open at the right time for the play design. With video start to finish of a play we can make "educated guess" on what we think was supposed to happen.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



This is true - I don't know what the play calls are. Nobody does outside of the team and staff. That being said, something somewhere is broken. The thing about all of this that confuses me - the first drive was well executed, but then we see things revert back to the mediocre bullshit.

It can be argued that the call may be to look for the deep route, but I am doubting that Mike is specifically telling Aaron to force the ball down the field regardless of whether the receiver is open or not. If this doesn't change - this team is nowhere near winning a championship.
nerdmann
8 years ago

This is true - I don't know what the play calls are. Nobody does outside of the team and staff. That being said, something somewhere is broken. The thing about all of this that confuses me - the first drive was well executed, but then we see things revert back to the mediocre bullshit.

It can be argued that the call may be to look for the deep route, but I am doubting that Mike is specifically telling Aaron to force the ball down the field regardless of whether the receiver is open or not. If this doesn't change - this team is nowhere near winning a championship.

Originally Posted by: hardrocker950 



Bert Favor used to change the play in order to do his own thing. Dunno if that's what's happening now.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Barfarn
8 years ago

Interesting statistics from this Giants game:

Aaron Rodgers QB rating when getting the ball out in UNDER 2.5: 103.2

Aaron Rodgers QB rating when getting the ball out in OVER 2.5: 40.9

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Rodgers has great accuracy; but misses easy throws. It just like a WR with great hands dropping a pass because he's thinking of running or getting hit instead of focusing solely on the catch.

Under 2.5 seconds Rodgers knows the rush cant get him, so he focuses more solely on the throw.

After 2.5 seconds his focus is more split on something causing more inaccuracy. My guess is the pass rush.

He's shown he is absolutely unwilling to deliver a big throw standing in the pocket with a possible impending hit coming.
DarkaneRules
8 years ago
He wants to play longer and not take the big hits, but the "little" ones add up too. We'll see what happens...

Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance
PackFanWithTwins
8 years ago

This is true - I don't know what the play calls are. Nobody does outside of the team and staff. That being said, something somewhere is broken. The thing about all of this that confuses me - the first drive was well executed, but then we see things revert back to the mediocre bullshit.

It can be argued that the call may be to look for the deep route, but I am doubting that Mike is specifically telling Aaron to force the ball down the field regardless of whether the receiver is open or not. If this doesn't change - this team is nowhere near winning a championship.

Originally Posted by: hardrocker950 



Just my opinion, but I think it is McCarthy's offensive philosophy. How many times have we heard him and Aaron say. We look for the matchups. Example, there was a play where they got Cobb covered by a LBer. Obvious mismatch so that is where the ball went. Problem is when they see that mismatch, they don't follow the play's progressions and if the defense happens to do something unexpected, or the defender does his job and has that route covered, it is to late to go through the progressions and we end up in the scramble drill.

Need to get back to the basics of calling a play, throwing to the first open guy in the progression. And using plays to setup future plays. Remember the days of running 3,4,5,6 slants in order to get one SLUGO.


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sschind
8 years ago

Interesting statistics from this Giants game:

Aaron Rodgers QB rating when getting the ball out in UNDER 2.5: 103.2

Aaron Rodgers QB rating when getting the ball out in OVER 2.5: 40.9

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



When he has time his mind automatically changes to "go for it all mode" Give him time and he is looking to go deep trying to force it even if everyone is covered instead of throwing it to the short guy who is open. He has a home run mentality now more than ever and I don't know if it will change.

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