Zero2Cool
8 years ago
Okay all of you Aaron Rodgers apologists, what is your excuse for the complete crap here?

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DarkaneRules
8 years ago
That one made me yell at the TV. It may have been the moment I lost perspective.
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steveishere
8 years ago
Nobody's open tho 😕
Yerko
8 years ago
Look at that pocket.

No reason to start getting happy feet.

No reason to start retreating back (which is why he probably missed Davis breaking open).

No reason to turn his back to the routes, which just made matters worse.

Positive side to this is that the things he has been doing can be fixed. The only question is will they be fixed. McCarthy has to grow a pair and confront his QB. He is way better than this...
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Grabacr
8 years ago
Ball should of been out by the time he turned his back! Always had the problem of HOLDING THE BALL too dam long
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PackFanWithTwins
8 years ago
Damn, they had that setup perfect for a huge gain.

Rodgers did pull the LB off coverage by looking left, If he had only looked back he had a 15-20 yard gain easy. Can't tell from the video but who was the receiver crossing not that is should matter that open.

With all due respect though, we don't know what his progressions on that play were supposed to be but I have to believe that pattern window was somewhere around the lower hash mark.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
Zero2Cool
8 years ago

With all due respect though, we don't know what his progressions on that play were supposed to be but I have to believe that pattern window was somewhere around the lower hash mark.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



If his progressions are the excuse as to why he missed that open WR, then his progressions need to be changed. 😁
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PackFanWithTwins
8 years ago

If his progressions are the excuse as to why he missed that open WR, then his progressions need to be changed. 😁

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I would agree. Just spit balling, I think his first read was off the LBer. He starts to follow the crosser which makes Rodgers look to the 2nd shallow WR turning in also. but the LBer broke off the crosser and would have lit up that 2nd WR. The next read looks to be the deeper cross which is also covered.

This is where I think he should have gone back to the shallow cross, but not sure if next look was the deep route or not. Either way, he bailed on the pocket too soon which is why he didn't make the late throw on the cross.
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DoddPower
8 years ago
My only problem is people will use the relatively few times a game something like this happens and act like it happens on every play. I bet you could find something like this from every NFL game, period. Yes, Rodgers should find the open man. I'm certainly not excusing him. But I'm not going to focus on a few screwed up plays and make broad conclusions. Mistakes are obviously being made, and this is one of them. No, it's not just the WRs not getting open. It's not just the offensive live. It's not just Aaron Rodgers. It's not just the coaching. It's cumulative team issue. But all this one play from one game or ever a few plays from a horrible game tells me is that those plays were mistakes and missed opportunities. The Packers receivers aren't getting open consistently enough, but that doesn't mean they aren't getting open at all. The Packers offensive line doesn't allow pressures on every play, but they definitely allow pressures. Aaron Rodgers doesn't miss every open receiver, but he obviously misses some, and has missed more than normal recently.

I'm sure one could make a collage of videos just like this of the receivers blanketed from this game and many others. Aaron Rodgers is obviously hearing footsteps or something. He's nervous in the pocket, which is causing him to come off his reads a little and move around. That could stem from being hit too many times which is likely a combination of offensive line blocking and him holding onto the ball too long (at least some of which could be due to lack of separation by the receivers). These things are cumulative, not one play, or even one game.
warhawk
8 years ago

I would agree. Just spit balling, I think his first read was off the LBer. He starts to follow the crosser which makes Rodgers look to the 2nd shallow WR turning in also. but the LBer broke off the crosser and would have lit up that 2nd WR. The next read looks to be the deeper cross which is also covered.

This is where I think he should have gone back to the shallow cross, but not sure if next look was the deep route or not. Either way, he bailed on the pocket too soon which is why he didn't make the late throw on the cross.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



I understand that we don't know the progressions here but safety help deep on that side should have altered the progressions away from the deep route as a second choice. Arod should have easily seen that LB was all the D had for coverage over the short middle. Even if the LB didn't bite on Arod's look off a fast WR vs. LB is a green light.

Secondly, the receiver is wide open and should have sat right there vs. turning up field once he saw Arod start to move. Why leave an area when there is nobody within 15 yards of you? Jordy at the bottom of the screen looked like he was actually going alter his route to go there but saw Davis crossing wide open so he turned up field not to screw it up. Then there ends up being this huge open area of the field and no one home.






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