nerdmann
8 years ago

Mother Mary Of Jesus... Some football fans freaking amaze me.

Based on what I read on many football forums, many posters... smack their 5 year old child for spilling their milk, Scream at the wife if the eggs are not as tasty as when they were first married.

How about one fucking post here stating... Clay has been a trooper, has a great attitude. Has been unselfish, Did not go to the press about loss of personal sack stat numbers to take one for the team and move inside last year.

Clay has been a consummate teammate and team player for his teammates in the locker room, for the Packers organization, and for every single Packer season ticket holder and fan of the team.

However..... That all means shit, it means fuck all actually, for the "What have you done for me lately mind set of a true non loyal and disrespectful fan of their team."



Originally Posted by: RaiderPride 



He's gotta prove he's still got it.
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Bigbyfan
8 years ago
He's already proven throughout his entire career that he is the most valuable player on the Packers defense.
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DoddPower
8 years ago

He's already proven throughout his entire career that he is the most valuable player on the Packers defense.

Originally Posted by: Bigbyfan 



But is being the most valuable player on an average at best defense deserving of elite NFL money, regardless of team? Perhaps it is, but I do think he is overpaid. It happens.
Bigbyfan
8 years ago

But is being the most valuable player on an average at best defense deserving of elite NFL money, regardless of team? Perhaps it is, but I do think he is overpaid. It happens.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



I agree he is overpaid. My comment was more directed towards the "he has to prove he's still got it" post.


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DoddPower
8 years ago

I agree he is overpaid. My comment was more directed towards the "he has to prove he's still got it" post.

Originally Posted by: Bigbyfan 



He's obviously still a very good player. But he's definitely not an elite pass rusher, and very good ILBs usually don't get paid elite OLB money. I'm worried about his transition back to OLB this season. I think his best position is inside, where he truly can be a game changing player, more than a player who maybe gets 15 sacks in a season, but disappears for long stretches of time. I think some of his skill-set is somewhat wasted unless he moves around frequently.
DakotaT
8 years ago

He's obviously still a very good player. But he's definitely not an elite pass rusher, and very good ILBs usually don't get paid elite OLB money. I'm worried about his transition back to OLB this season. I think his best position is inside, where he truly can be a game changing player, more than a player who maybe gets 15 sacks in a season, but disappears for long stretches of time. I think some of his skill-set is somewhat wasted unless he moves around frequently.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



I thought his contract was ridiculous when he signed it. Thompson loves overpaying linebackers.
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shield4life
8 years ago
The main reason why CM3 hasn't been as versatile as before is because the opposing defenses only target him & double team him.

Asides him on defense there's no threat to the opposing QB.
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DakotaT
8 years ago

Mother Mary Of Jesus... Some football fans freaking amaze me.

Based on what I read on many football forums, many posters... smack their 5 year old child for spilling their milk, Scream at the wife if the eggs are not as tasty as when they were first married.

How about one fucking post here stating... Clay has been a trooper, has a great attitude. Has been unselfish, Did not go to the press about loss of personal sack stat numbers to take one for the team and move inside last year.

Clay has been a consummate teammate and team player for his teammates in the locker room, for the Packers organization, and for every single Packer season ticket holder and fan of the team.

However..... That all means shit, it means fuck all actually, for the "What have you done for me lately mind set of a true non loyal and disrespectful fan of their team."


Originally Posted by: RaiderPride 



Isn't it funny how money changes people's perceptions of players? The fact of the matter is that paying players the kind of coin Clay makes hurts the rest of the team because they all have to take less. Clay needs to keep being superman or else its going to be what have you done for me lately. I'm sure he realized this when he signed the contract.
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nerdmann
8 years ago

Isn't it funny how money changes people's perceptions of players? The fact of the matter is that paying players the kind of coin Clay makes hurts the rest of the team because they all have to take less. Clay needs to keep being superman or else its going to be what have you done for me lately. I'm sure he realized this when he signed the contract.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



If other guys want that kind of money, they can improve their craft so as to deserve it. Clay is probably damaging his long term wellbeing, not just by playing football but also by juicing to maximize on field performance.
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steveishere
8 years ago

The main reason why CM3 hasn't been as versatile as before is because the opposing defenses only target him & double team him.

Asides him on defense there's no threat to the opposing QB.

Originally Posted by: shield4life 



That's not even true at all. Clay wasn't being double teamed hardly at all and peppers and Daniels have both been as good or better at getting to the qb the last 2 years.
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