Barfarn
8 years ago

Nobody "needed" a QB that year. Not to mention the draft had no cap. Part of the reason why teams who might've needed a QB avoided Rodgers is because he easily could've demanded Top 5 money.

It's more than just the ability out of college. It's the business side too.

Originally Posted by: blueleopard 



Rodgers signed a 5yr 7.7M contract w/ Packers in 2005, in his slot with a slight bump for a QB. He had no basis nor a choice to demand top 5 money; except to play in Canada for half.

And if you polled the GMs/coaches, I'm certain many would love to have a top 5 player at QB backing up even Brady, Manning or in this case Favre for under 2M/yr. Heck , SF had Rattay, Dorsey ad Pickett in 2004; even they could have traded up to get AR, to go along w/ Smith-assuming they believed it was a tough choice between Smith and AR.

But here some teams that really needed a top 5 QB:
Wash at #24 and #9. They pick jason Cambell at #24-do they not move up when they see Aaron Rodgers at 20, then 21 then 22 if they viewed Aaron Rodgers as a top 5 pick? Of course they do, they would DARE take a chance that someone jumps ahead of them or that Oak and Balt will select him. And would they take a top QB at 9 and get a CB later, if they saw Aaron Rodgers as a top 5.

Oakland- At #22 no one would believe they had to have Fabien Washinton instead of top 5 pick QB Rodgers; when they had 33 YO Kerry Colllins.

Balt at #21- had Boller who started 25 mediocre games in 2003-4; No way Balt drafts mark Carrier if they thought Aaron Rodgers was a top 5 pick.

Jax #20-Had Leftwich start 27 mediocre games in 2003-4; they knew what they had also;no way they draft Matt Jones instead of top 5 pick QB.

Dallas #19 and #11- they had 33 yo Bledsoe-no way they dont take Aaron Rodgers if he's a top 5 with one of these 2 pics.
Hou #16- after 3 failed years of Derrick Carr-out from under G money so cap hit yr 4 and beyond probably a wash; if not a savings-They draft Aaron Rodgers if he's top 5.

KC- #15- 35 yo Trent Green was playing well-but they draft Aaron Rodgers instead of MLB Johnson if they see hm as top 5.
Car #14- Delhomme had not yet blossomed though they liked him alot-but ya gotta think if ya got a chace at a top 5 guy dont ya take it.

NO#13-was over with the Aaron Brooks experiment. in 2006 they traded the farm for Brees; wouldn't they have just picked their franchise QB here is they thought he was top 5?

Det#10- Harrington had started 44 lousy games; they get a cap savigs if he's cut-it is impossible they dont draft Aaron Rodgers here if he's a top 5 guy in their mind.

AZ#8-had 34 YO broken down Kurt Warner-even if they had a crystal ball knowing he'd catch lightining in 2 years-they still draft a top 5 QB at 9 instead of Rolle, no doubt!

And there is no doubt that Clev, Mia, Chic, and TB trade up from #2-5 in 2nd rnd once Aaron Rodgers crosses #20 or they'd have picked him in the 1st if Aaron Rodgers was a top 5 in their mind.

And Minn picked 2 busts Williamson and Erasmus James instead-the believed in Culpepper.
Jacob
8 years ago
Yeah looking back it was questionable.
wpr
  • wpr
  • Preferred Member
8 years ago

Rodgers signed a 5yr 7.7M contract w/ Packers in 2005, in his slot with a slight bump for a QB. He had no basis nor a choice to demand top 5 money; except to play in Canada for half.

And if you polled the GMs/coaches, I'm certain many would love to have a top 5 player at QB backing up even Brady, Manning or in this case Favre for under 2M/yr. Heck , SF had Rattay, Dorsey ad Pickett in 2004; even they could have traded up to get AR, to go along w/ Smith-assuming they believed it was a tough choice between Smith and AR.

But here some teams that really needed a top 5 QB:
Wash at #24 and #9. They pick jason Cambell at #24-do they not move up when they see Aaron Rodgers at 20, then 21 then 22 if they viewed Aaron Rodgers as a top 5 pick? Of course they do, they would DARE take a chance that someone jumps ahead of them or that Oak and Balt will select him. And would they take a top QB at 9 and get a CB later, if they saw Aaron Rodgers as a top 5.

Oakland- At #22 no one would believe they had to have Fabien Washinton instead of top 5 pick QB Rodgers; when they had 33 YO Kerry Colllins.

Balt at #21- had Boller who started 25 mediocre games in 2003-4; No way Balt drafts mark Carrier if they thought Aaron Rodgers was a top 5 pick.

Jax #20-Had Leftwich start 27 mediocre games in 2003-4; they knew what they had also;no way they draft Matt Jones instead of top 5 pick QB.

Dallas #19 and #11- they had 33 yo Bledsoe-no way they dont take Aaron Rodgers if he's a top 5 with one of these 2 pics.
Hou #16- after 3 failed years of Derrick Carr-out from under G money so cap hit yr 4 and beyond probably a wash; if not a savings-They draft Aaron Rodgers if he's top 5.

KC- #15- 35 yo Trent Green was playing well-but they draft Aaron Rodgers instead of MLB Johnson if they see hm as top 5.
Car #14- Delhomme had not yet blossomed though they liked him alot-but ya gotta think if ya got a chace at a top 5 guy dont ya take it.

NO#13-was over with the Aaron Brooks experiment. in 2006 they traded the farm for Brees; wouldn't they have just picked their franchise QB here is they thought he was top 5?

Det#10- Harrington had started 44 lousy games; they get a cap savigs if he's cut-it is impossible they dont draft Aaron Rodgers here if he's a top 5 guy in their mind.

AZ#8-had 34 YO broken down Kurt Warner-even if they had a crystal ball knowing he'd catch lightining in 2 years-they still draft a top 5 QB at 9 instead of Rolle, no doubt!

And there is no doubt that Clev, Mia, Chic, and TB trade up from #2-5 in 2nd rnd once Aaron Rodgers crosses #20 or they'd have picked him in the 1st if Aaron Rodgers was a top 5 in their mind.

And Minn picked 2 busts Williamson and Erasmus James instead-the believed in Culpepper.

Originally Posted by: Barfarn 



GMs lie. A lot. Rarely do they actually take the BPA. They take the BPA that fits their needs.
Aaron Rodgers was absolutely better than most of the QBs in the league at that time. But like every single rookie QB he needed time to grow and develop. A former HC said that 3 years is the typical time it takes.

Most of the GMs who passed on Aaron Rodgers didn't have the 3 years to wait. They took players that they felt would get out on the field in their rookie season and become a starter by yr 2.

I was never so pleased by a draft pick as I was with Aaron. I knew that he would sit behind Brett for at least 2 yrs
UserPostedImage
Fan Shout
Zero2Cool (2h) : Frigging host issues for site again
beast (2h) : For the first time in their long history, the Bears fire their head coach mid-season. Which comes after three very close in-division losses.
Zero2Cool (20h) : At the game now. Kampman and Cullen Jenkins are here.
buckeyepackfan (20h) : Happy Thanksgiving Packer Fans! Gonna celebrate with some grilled Dolphin later!
buckeyepackfan (20h) : Inactive 23 CB Jaire Alexander 56 LB Edgerrin Cooper 62 OL Jacob Monk 87 WR Romeo Doubs
dhazer (20h) : Just a talking point, do we try and trade Jaire next year to get out from the contract as he can't stay healthy
Zero2Cool (21h) : Happy Thanksgiving! About to head to game.
wpr (22h) : Happy Thanksgiving
Martha Careful (28-Nov) : Happy Thanksgiving Everybody...Go Packers!!!
Zero2Cool (28-Nov) : That is what a lot of people seem to think. Even though when he was on Giants, he was trash.
Martha Careful (27-Nov) : Brilliant move by Vikings!!! The signing provide great leverage in Darnold negotiations
Mucky Tundra (27-Nov) : Boo!
Zero2Cool (27-Nov) : Packers have ruled out Jaire Alexander, Edgerrin Cooper, and Romeo Doubs for Thursday's game against the Dolphins.
Zero2Cool (27-Nov) : Daniel Jones joins Vikings
Zero2Cool (27-Nov) : Tomorrow high 32° and low 19°
beast (27-Nov) : Thanks Mucky!
Mucky Tundra (27-Nov) : beast, forecast is looking like 27-28 degrees at kickoff, slight chance of snow flurries
Zero2Cool (27-Nov) : Oh? It wasn't on the injury report. That sucks, but it's what is best.
packerfanoutwest (26-Nov) : Doubs is out due to concussion
beast (26-Nov) : What does the weather look like?
Martha Careful (26-Nov) : You can wear long-johns mittens and a hat. We want Hill and their other skill guys FROZEN
Zero2Cool (26-Nov) : I'm not sure I hope for that. I'll be at the game.
Martha Careful (25-Nov) : I hope it is colder than a well-diggers ass on Thanksgiving night.
Zero2Cool (25-Nov) : doubt he wants to face the speedsters
beast (25-Nov) : Dolphins offense can be explosive... I wonder if we'll have Alexander back
Zero2Cool (25-Nov) : No Doubs could be issue Thursday
Mucky Tundra (25-Nov) : Bears. Santos. Blocked FG
Zero2Cool (24-Nov) : Bears. Vikings. OT
Mucky Tundra (24-Nov) : Thems the breaks I guess
Mucky Tundra (24-Nov) : Two players out and Williams had an injury designation this week but Oladapo is a healthy scratch
Zero2Cool (24-Nov) : Packers inactives vs 49ers: • CB Jaire Alexander • S Kitan Oladapo • LB Edgerrin Cooper • OL Jacob Monk
TheKanataThrilla (24-Nov) : Aaron Jones with a costly red zone fumble
Zero2Cool (24-Nov) : When we trade Malik for a 1st rounder, we'll need a new QB2.
packerfanoutwest (23-Nov) : Report: Aaron Rodgers wants to play in 2025, but not for the Jets
beast (23-Nov) : That's what I told the Police officer about my speed when he pulled me over
packerfanoutwest (23-Nov) : NFL told Bears that Packers’ blocked field goal was legal
packerfanoutwest (22-Nov) : 49ers are underdogs at Packers, ending streak of 36 straight games as favorites
Zero2Cool (22-Nov) : 49ers might be down their QB, DL, TE and LT?
packerfanoutwest (22-Nov) : Jaire Alexander says he has a torn PCL
Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : Even with the context it's ... what?
Mucky Tundra (20-Nov) : Matt LaFleur without context: “I don’t wanna pat you on the butt and you poop in my hand.”
beast (20-Nov) : We brought in a former Packers OL coach to help evaluate OL as a scout
beast (20-Nov) : Jets have been pretty good at picking DL
Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : He landed good players thanks to high draft slot. He isn't good.
Zero2Cool (20-Nov) : He can shove his knowledge up his ass. He knows nothing.
beast (20-Nov) : More knowledge, just like bring in the Jets head coach
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : What? Why? Huh?
beast (19-Nov) : I wonder if the Packers might to try to bring Douglas in through Milt Hendrickson/Ravens connections
Zero2Cool (19-Nov) : The Jets fired Joe Douglas, per sources
packerfanoutwest (19-Nov) : Jets are a mess......
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 12:00 PM
Vikings
Saturday, Jan 4 @ 11:00 PM
BEARS
Recent Topics
32m / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

2h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

8h / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

27-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

27-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

26-Nov / Featured Content / Martha Careful

26-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

25-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

25-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / buckeyepackfan

24-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / buckeyepackfan

24-Nov / GameDay Threads / Zero2Cool

23-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / dfosterf

23-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

21-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

21-Nov / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2024 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.