MintBaconDrivel
9 years ago

You know, the Dolphins brought in a ton of free agents. And I know people were frustrated when they saw, — we had a couple of clients come in like [linebacker] Sean Spence and Josh Robinson the cornerback, these are two local guys that signed elsewhere. One of the reasons the Dolphins aren’t signing these free agents, quite frankly, is because they are very mindful of the compensatory picks.

So one of the things that I’ve said to the union is, ‘Can we get rid of the compensatory picks? Because it really does affect free agency. You know, if we’re going to have free agency, let’s do it where teams aren’t holding back because they want to collect on draft picks.’

I literally had teams say to me, ‘Look, we’re not going to able to sign this guy because we’re mindful of where we are in the compensatory pick calculations. We don’t want to be upside down on that.’

I will tell you that the Green Bay Packers, they won’t sign a free agent. Period. They’ll sign guys that were cut, that won’t count against the draft picks. They’re so mindful of getting extra picks.

Now this doesn’t matter if you don’t lose guys [in free agency]. But you know the Dolphins have probably lost more [free agents] than anyone else this year other than the Denver Broncos. … That’s something I’m competing against now when I try to get our guys signed.

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Wade
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9 years ago
The compensatory pick calculation *is* an argument for playing less in free agency. It is *not* an argument for
They won't sign a free agent. Period."

Or shouldn't be, anyway.
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Zero2Cool
9 years ago
The Browns are calculated to have two or three 3rd round picks because of the players they have lost and have not signed. That's not a bad plan for a team in rebuild mode. And if they ship out Joe Thomas for another 3rd or maybe a 2nd, that's a bonus.
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9 years ago

The Browns are calculated to have two or three 3rd round picks because of the players they have lost and have not signed. That's not a bad plan for a team in rebuild mode. And if they ship out Joe Thomas for another 3rd or maybe a 2nd, that's a bonus.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I understand and agree that teams that are in the rebuilding stage need to get as many comp picks as they can. Teams that are trying to break out from the pack of playoff contenders need to focus more on the one or two players that will put them over the top.
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PackFanWithTwins
9 years ago
Rosenhaus only cares because the more activity there is in FA the more money he and his firm make. He wants bidding wars for his guys. If daniels had been allowed into the FA market, look how much higher his contract would have been and how much more the agents cut becomes.
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PackerTraxx
9 years ago
If Rottenhaus want it, I'm against it.
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Rockmolder
9 years ago

The Browns are calculated to have two or three 3rd round picks because of the players they have lost and have not signed. That's not a bad plan for a team in rebuild mode. And if they ship out Joe Thomas for another 3rd or maybe a 2nd, that's a bonus.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I agree that that helps greatly in rebuilding. I barely dare say it, but the Browns seem to be heading in the right direction.

I wouldn't trade if I were them, though. At least, not if you're going to draft Wentz or Goff. Without an offensive line, they'll ruin their young QB like the Texans ruined David Carr.
beast
9 years ago

Rosenhaus only cares because the more activity there is in FA the more money he and his firm make. He wants bidding wars for his guys. If daniels had been allowed into the FA market, look how much higher his contract would have been and how much more the agents cut becomes.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



That very well could be, but I also think he has a valid point... because it's not just taking money out of his hands but also the FAs that they're not willing to sign...
But his "answer" of completely getting rid of the comp picks sounds like a mistake as well.

Of course isn't there a certain date where FA signings no longer count against the comp picks? (I have no idea when that is), but in theory they could just move that forward which would let teams sign players after that date without counting against the comp pick formulas. Say halfway between the opening of FA and the draft...

That way the player that couldn't get signed due to the comp picks, could then get signed before the draft. Of course maybe that's already the case and I don't know it... because I have no idea when the no longer counting against comp picks date is... but there has to be one right?


Also someone really needs to put pressure on the NFL to explain the 33rd comp pick given out... it's my understand the number of comp picks handed out (since they started handed them out) has ALWAYS matched the number of the teams in the NFL... so if their were 30 teams, then their were 30 comp picks... and since their has been 32 teams for years... their has been 32 comp picks for years....

And somehow this year their are 32 teams, but 33 comp picks... with the last one (the 33rd one) going to the Patriots... did the NFL change the rules? or the NFL giving the Patriots a free pick since they lost the case against Brady? or what the heck happened there? Why is it suddenly legal to have more comp picks than teams?
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