Zero2Cool
9 years ago
Where do you see Fox News? I hear that flung around a lot but never seen it.
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DakotaT
9 years ago

Where do you see Fox News? I hear that flung around a lot but never seen it.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I see Fox News in all the nimwits that want to vote for Donald Trump. Fox News has built that entire base of imbeciles for him, and the Republican Party is now reaping what it sowed for the last ten years. Just absolute disgusting lunatics for candidates, that have no chance in hell of winning the presidency.
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Zero2Cool
9 years ago
Hmm, our local Fox channel always boasts balanced coverage. Guessing they are snow balling. I don't watch the news. Too depressing.
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Cheesey
9 years ago

Hmm, our local Fox channel always boasts balanced coverage. Guessing they are snow balling. I don't watch the news. Too depressing.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



You see Zero, that the ones that scream all the time about "Fox news" never actually WATCH it. They just "regurgitate" the liberal party line that TELLS them how horrible Fox News is.
Fox is the only truely fair news. All the others (like CNN, the communist news network) are slanted so far to the left, that I wonder how they don't fall over.
I'm getting so used to being called an idiot for my conservative beliefs by some here, that it doesn't bother me anymore.
Some people just are not capable of disagreeing without childish name calling.
Kind of immature actions by adults.
Another form of being a bully.
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DoddPower
9 years ago

You see Zero, that the ones that scream all the time about "Fox news" never actually WATCH it. They just "regurgitate" the liberal party line that TELLS them how horrible Fox News is.
Fox is the only truely fair news. All the others (like CNN, the communist news network) are slanted so far to the left, that I wonder how they don't fall over.
I'm getting so used to being called an idiot for my conservative beliefs by some here, that it doesn't bother me anymore.
Some people just are not capable of disagreeing without childish name calling.
Kind of immature actions by adults.
Another form of being a bully.

Originally Posted by: Cheesey 



I watch plenty of Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, etc., as well as listen to many talk radio programs (Rush, Savage, Hannity, Colmes, and other local stations). THEY ALL LIE AND THEY ARE ALL BIASED! More people need to acknowledge that they are all horrible, and they are all for-profit businesses that are just in the game to get ratings and ultimately make money. That's their number one priority, not providing "Fair and Balanced" coverage. I don't blame them for that at all, though. That's why they exist. They are not a charity. I just don't understand why more people don't seem to understand that.

All of the "mainstream media" (and yes, that absolutely includes Fox News, whose ratings crush CNN and MSNBC), shapes the narratives to fit their agenda. That's the reality. It's fine to consume their product, but everything you consume should be taken with a grain of salt and one's own common sense must be applied to each situation so that they can form their own opinion of the probable "truth." But even if one does that, truth is almost always relative to one's own experiences and world prospective. Often, both sides or every side can be "right."
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9 years ago
IMO Fox has three people worth listening to from time to time: Charles Krauthammer, Brit Hume, and the older guy who does the precinct-by-precinct analyses on election night (can't remember his name).

Otherwise I consider them worthless and a complete waste of my time unless I feel the need to check out the legs of one of their bimbos.

I cannot think of three people who work news for other networks worth listening to.

Based on Krauthammer, Hume, and the other guy, Fox gets a D- from me. The others get a flat F.
And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)
DoddPower
9 years ago

IMO Fox has three people worth listening to from time to time: Charles Krauthammer, Brit Hume, and the older guy who does the precinct-by-precinct analyses on election night (can't remember his name).

Otherwise I consider them worthless and a complete waste of my time unless I feel the need to check out the legs of one of their bimbos.

I cannot think of three people who work news for other networks worth listening to.

Based on Krauthammer, Hume, and the other guy, Fox gets a D- from me. The others get a flat F.

Originally Posted by: Wade 



I generally agree with you, except the Fox News grade. All the 24 hours news networks and major talk radio hosts should get big fat Fs. They are all entertainment. I have no problem with that. The only problem is when people confuse the news-entertainment aspect with actual objective news, which they are not.
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9 years ago

I generally agree with you, except the Fox News grade. All the 24 hours news networks and major talk radio hosts should get big fat Fs. They are all entertainment. I have no problem with that. The only problem is when people confuse the news-entertainment aspect with actual objective news, which they are not.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



Okay, I'll buy that.

My grade for Fox was so "high" only because I think they have three guys whose "commentary" is worth listening to (though one of them -- Michael Barone, I think is the name I was trying to remember -- only one day every four years).

If one thinks in terms of pure "news reporting" (as opposed to commentary or other forms of entertainment), I can only think of one, maybe two, news sources in the world that deserves higher than a C grade. Both are daily newspapers. Neither are American newspapers.

I'd give the (Manchester,UK) Guardian a B, and the Financial Times (also UK) my only A.

And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)
DoddPower
9 years ago

Okay, I'll buy that.

My grade for Fox was so "high" only because I think they have three guys whose "commentary" is worth listening to (though one of them -- Michael Barone, I think is the name I was trying to remember -- only one day every four years).

If one thinks in terms of pure "news reporting" (as opposed to commentary or other forms of entertainment), I can only think of one, maybe two, news sources in the world that deserves higher than a C grade. Both are daily newspapers. Neither are American newspapers.

I'd give the (Manchester,UK) Guardian a B, and the Financial Times (also UK) my only A.

Originally Posted by: Wade 



Yeah, well I can't be right or wrong. It's just an opinion that can't objectively be proven one way or the other. But none of the major news outlets can be trusted. The information can be consumed, but a substantial level of critical thinking is required to wade through the BS.

I see a lot of people that think their news choice is "the best" just because the source agrees with their perspectives. That doesn't make it "true" or "objective" in any sense. Even some of the folks I agree with generally, if one takes a step back and analyzes their coverage, it becomes pretty obvious they are applying their spin on how the information is presented. It's not always easy to pick up on, but it's there.
wpr
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9 years ago

I watch plenty of Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, etc., as well as listen to many talk radio programs (Rush, Savage, Hannity, Colmes, and other local stations). THEY ALL LIE AND THEY ARE ALL BIASED! More people need to acknowledge that they are all horrible, and they are all for-profit businesses that are just in the game to get ratings and ultimately make money. That's their number one priority, not providing "Fair and Balanced" coverage. I don't blame them for that at all, though. That's why they exist. They are not a charity. I just don't understand why more people don't seem to understand that.

All of the "mainstream media" (and yes, that absolutely includes Fox News, whose ratings crush CNN and MSNBC), shapes the narratives to fit their agenda. That's the reality. It's fine to consume their product, but everything you consume should be taken with a grain of salt and one's own common sense must be applied to each situation so that they can form their own opinion of the probable "truth." But even if one does that, truth is almost always relative to one's own experiences and world prospective. Often, both sides or every side can be "right."

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



It reminds me of lawyers. I have watched two attorneys take the same 26-40 words in a law and pound away at it claiming THEIR interpretation was without question the correct meaning of those words on the piece of paper. It makes you wonder how they can pretend to be so far apart over something so simple. The real answer is almost always somewhere in between.
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