RainX
9 years ago
I mean if we're going to get back on the Fire Mike McCarthy bandwagon like a lot of fans did back in '08, might as well start complaining about the team's pad level again. 🤣
blank
all_about_da_packers
9 years ago

I'm not apologizing for him. The O looks all out of sorts. Watch AR's presser, those two are clearly not on the same page. I don't know what the hell we were doing with RC at RB for an entire quarter. I share some frustrations, just not nearly to the extend that you do.

Originally Posted by: musccy 



I like your post, and I'll go a bit further: the only reason I have the tiniest bit of hope we can still salvage something on offense this season for our playoff run is because MM is back calling plays.

Conceptually, things MM is doing make some sense (and certainly make more sense than what Clements was doing). Take Cobb at RB for entire quarter - you want your best playmaker (and Cobb is no doubt our most dynamic playmaker) in a position to get free releases and you want the defense to show the type of coverage it is in early. Cobb at RB does both, and when your RBs are playing badly, with a Safety in Mays who has some shortcomings in coverage... I get why MM would extensively start using Cobb out of the backfield. I certainly feel we are in better formations and packages with MM calling plays compared to Clements.

One concerning part is, in fact, the execution. Week after week, it seems like it is not there; at some point we will need to conclude our personnel just sucks and can't execute. Each week I'm coming closer and closer to concluding just that.

But you raise something that is the most concerning: something is not right between Rodgers and MM. Maybe Rodgers isn't happy that MM has cut back on the freedom A-Rod had at the line to change plays. Maybe there are lingering hurt feelings by Rodgers for MM taking away playcalling duties from Clements. Outside the beat writers using their sources and floating out "reports", I don't know if we'll ever know what is going on between the two. But the two men need to get on the same page because our talent seems to not be good enough to win in spite of the QB and Coach being on different pages.
The NFL: Where Greg Jennings Happens.
DarkaneRules
9 years ago
Aaron Rodgers is not happy because his receivers are not getting open consistently and he misses Jordy Nelson.
Circular Arguments: They are a heck of an annoyance
Zero2Cool
9 years ago
I watched something last night that I wish I'd see from the Packers and that was the Cardinals taking shot after shot down field. They were incompleted for the most part and still the defense had to account for it and that stretched them out. The Packers passing plays seem very similar to one another with little variation.
UserPostedImage
musccy
9 years ago



One concerning part is, in fact, the execution. Week after week, it seems like it is not there; at some point we will need to conclude our personnel just sucks and can't execute. Each week I'm coming closer and closer to concluding just that.

But you raise something that is the most concerning: something is not right between Rodgers and MM. Maybe Rodgers isn't happy that Mike McCarthy has cut back on the freedom A-Rod had at the line to change plays. Maybe there are lingering hurt feelings by Rodgers for Mike McCarthy taking away playcalling duties from Clements. Outside the beat writers using their sources and floating out "reports", I don't know if we'll ever know what is going on between the two. But the two men need to get on the same page because our talent seems to not be good enough to win in spite of the QB and Coach being on different pages.

Originally Posted by: all_about_da_packers 



The execution is atrocious most notably with the WRs. We've been hearing since (at least) San Diego they need to execute better. 2 consecutive months of the same message and it makes it nearly impossible to hope for change from that group. I've given up hope on Davante for this year. I think he can still be productive, but he needs a reset that only an offseason can provide, his confidence is nonexistent. Janis is about a 10 year project. Jones is slower and stiffer than my pet turtle. Had a good game but not sure how long it lasts.

As far as MM and AR, he's been bitching to the press since Jordy went down. Last night he appeared to be bitching about Abby's playing time. As you said, tough to decipher what he's crying about, but clearly he's upset with the team, and presumably MM. It certainly comes across diva-essque...maybe warranted complaints, but not a good look!
nerdmann
9 years ago

The execution is atrocious most notably with the WRs. We've been hearing since (at least) San Diego they need to execute better. 2 consecutive months of the same message and it makes it nearly impossible to hope for change from that group. I've given up hope on Davante for this year. I think he can still be productive, but he needs a reset that only an offseason can provide, his confidence is nonexistent. Janis is about a 10 year project. Jones is slower and stiffer than my pet turtle. Had a good game but not sure how long it lasts.

As far as Mike McCarthy and AR, he's been bitching to the press since Jordy went down. Last night he appeared to be bitching about Abby's playing time. As you said, tough to decipher what he's crying about, but clearly he's upset with the team, and presumably MM. It certainly comes across diva-essque...maybe warranted complaints, but not a good look!

Originally Posted by: musccy 



I've been more critical of Mike than anyone, but if I had to choose between Mike and Aaron, I'd take Mike. I want to be more fundamentally sound. We've seen this season what Aaon and his cabana boy Tom Clements want to do with the offense.

It seems to me that a decent portion of our struggles is due to Aaron sand bagging the offense to make Mike look like an asshole. This is one reason I would bench him, just as I was calling for Bert to be benched in the '07 NFCCG.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
musccy
9 years ago


It seems to me that a decent portion of our struggles is due to Aaron sand bagging the offense to make Mike look like an asshole. This is one reason I would bench him, just as I was calling for Bert to be benched in the '07 NFCCG.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Listening to a replay of the Bill Michaels show now - they said the exact same thing. I don't know that I believe that to that extent - but I do sense AR is spiting MM at times.

blueleopard
9 years ago
The Raiders are a better team than what their record and the final score indicated.

Last week everyone's extremely pleased to see McCarthy call the plays.

This week we're complaining that we only won by 10 points.

I get that the 3rd and 1 calls are pretty stupid, but you can't coach a player to run faster than has DB to get open. Jesus, guys.


Danreb Victorio A Believer of Greg Jennings
Zero2Cool
9 years ago

The Raiders are a better team than what their record and the final score indicated.

Last week everyone's extremely pleased to see McCarthy call the plays.

This week we're complaining that we only won by 10 points.

I get that the 3rd and 1 calls are pretty stupid, but you can't coach a player to run faster than has DB to get open. Jesus, guys.

Originally Posted by: blueleopard 



That 10 points doesn't count because the defense scored 7 of them directly and gift wrapped another 7. So really, the offense lost by 4 points. [giddity]
UserPostedImage
PackFanWithTwins
9 years ago
I've had the same complaints about McCarthy for some years now. Nothing to the point of wanting him run out of town.

Running game, or lack there of. One reason is design. Either they are in shotgun with a run/pass option so the oline needs to start pass blocking rather than driving the guy across from them so they are always on our side of the LOS. Also with design comes the designed run plays. There is no deception in the run game. If the run is to the right, the Oline all slide to the right, if it is to the left they all slide left. Once the Oline starts moving, the defense knows it is a run and where to go. There are no counter plays in our running game.

The other reason is lack of dedication to it. We always hear how a running back gets better in the 4th. Well the truth is the running game gets better because the Oline does better and gets more dominate over the Dline.

Passing game more recently has been lack of utilizing the middle of the field from the LOS out to 10 yards. To many of our passes are to the sideline or 10-15+ yards down field.
The world needs ditch diggers too Danny!!!
Fan Shout
wpr (11h) : yay
Zero2Cool (13h) : Mark Murphy says Steelers likely to protect Packers game. Meaning, no Ireland
Zero2Cool (16h) : Struggling to figure out what text editor options are needed and which are 'nice to have'
Mucky Tundra (17h) : *CHOMP CHOMP CHOMP*
Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : WR who said he'd break Xavier Worthy 40 time...and ran slower than you
Mucky Tundra (2-Apr) : Who?
Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : Texas’ WR Isaiah Bond is scheduled to visit the Bills, Browns, Chiefs, Falcons, Packers and Titans starting next week.
Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : Spotting ball isn't changing, only measuring distance is, Which wasn't the issue.
Zero2Cool (2-Apr) : The spotting of the ball IS the issue. Not the chain gang.
Mucky Tundra (2-Apr) : Will there be a tracker on the ball or something?
Zero2Cool (1-Apr) : uh oh
Martha Careful (1-Apr) : Too bad camera's can't spot the ball as well.
Mucky Tundra (1-Apr) : So will the chain gang be gone completely or will they still be around as a backup or whatever?
Zero2Cool (1-Apr) : The method for measuring first downs in the NFL will switch from chain gangs to camera-based technology in 2025, the league announced.
Martha Careful (1-Apr) : A big step in the right direction. Just put in the college system is very very good.
Zero2Cool (1-Apr) : NFL has passed a rule that allows both teams to possess the ball in OT during the regular season
Zero2Cool (1-Apr) : Touchbacks on kickoffs will now bring the ball to the 35-yard line.
beast (31-Mar) : It might of gotten more popular recently, but braiding hair (even men) in certain cultures goes back for centuries.
Martha Careful (30-Mar) : Is men braiding their hair a new style thing? Watching the NCAA men's tournament many players have done
Zero2Cool (29-Mar) : Ha. Well, it'd be nice for folks to reset their own password. Via validated email 😏
beast (29-Mar) : Monopoly was supposed to be an educational game, that show how evil capitalism was and how we should avoid it
beast (29-Mar) : Lol, I was thinking username would be better, as then I wouldn't have to keep an email up to date lol 😂
beast (29-Mar) : Zero2Cool (25-Mar) : I was thinking email because I think it'll make folks keep it up todate lol
wpr (29-Mar) : sure is
Zero2Cool (29-Mar) : Monopoly is a rip off of The Landlord's Game
wpr (27-Mar) : 28 days until the draft
earthquake (27-Mar) : Which seemed strange to my 9 year old self, that you could be a fan for a team other than the one you play for
earthquake (27-Mar) : Nothing eventful happened, other than it being clear that he was a bengals fan
earthquake (27-Mar) : And we went and hung out with him one afternoon, I must have been 9 or so
earthquake (27-Mar) : That’s wild, when I was a kid my friend lived in the same apartment complex in De Pere
Mucky Tundra (27-Mar) : Only career highspot was a 200 yard rushing game while playing for the Cardinals
Mucky Tundra (27-Mar) : He is a former Packer. Drafted out of Northern Illinois. Didn't do much in GB.
dfosterf (26-Mar) : Despicable
Zero2Cool (26-Mar) : Former NFL. I think Packers too
Zero2Cool (26-Mar) : NFL RB Leshon Johnson has been charged in a massive dog fighting operation, with the FBI seizing over 190 Pit Bulls
Mucky Tundra (26-Mar) : Some real irony of a QB as short as Wilson playing for the Giants
Mucky Tundra (26-Mar) : Giants country, let's be the tall beings of lore!
Mucky Tundra (26-Mar) : Russell Wilson signs with the Giants.
Zero2Cool (25-Mar) : I was thinking email because I think it'll make folks keep it up todate lol
wpr (25-Mar) : I don't think there is a significant difference. I use a user name for many. Others email.
Martha Careful (25-Mar) : email
Zero2Cool (25-Mar) : would it be better to use EMAIL or USERNAME to log into a site?
wpr (25-Mar) : Thanks Zero
Zero2Cool (24-Mar) : New forum has the ability to Thank a post now.
beast (24-Mar) : And the only time they have won the Championship in an even year, was the first time they did, in 2006.
beast (24-Mar) : Since 2007, there have been 10 odd numbered years, Wisconsin Women have won the Championship in 7 of those 10 odd numbered years.
buckeyepackfan (24-Mar) : Congratulations Lady Badger Hockey Team. NATIONAL CHAMPIONS!!
Zero2Cool (23-Mar) : I don't think it's completed yet. it was just announced last month, right?
dhazer (23-Mar) : did netflix ever release the Packers documentary
Zero2Cool (21-Mar) : And it is glorious!
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2024 Packers Schedule
Friday, Sep 6 @ 7:15 PM
Eagles
Sunday, Sep 15 @ 12:00 PM
COLTS
Sunday, Sep 22 @ 12:00 PM
Titans
Sunday, Sep 29 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Sunday, Oct 6 @ 3:25 PM
Rams
Sunday, Oct 13 @ 12:00 PM
CARDINALS
Sunday, Oct 20 @ 12:00 PM
TEXANS
Sunday, Oct 27 @ 12:00 PM
Jaguars
Sunday, Nov 3 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Sunday, Nov 17 @ 12:00 PM
Bears
Sunday, Nov 24 @ 3:25 PM
49ERS
Thursday, Nov 28 @ 7:20 PM
DOLPHINS
Thursday, Dec 5 @ 7:15 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 15 @ 7:20 PM
Seahawks
Monday, Dec 23 @ 7:15 PM
SAINTS
Sunday, Dec 29 @ 3:25 PM
Vikings
Sunday, Jan 5 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Jan 12 @ 3:30 PM
Eagles
Recent Topics
12h / Feedback, Suggestions and Issues / Zero2Cool

8-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

2-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

2-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

1-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

1-Apr / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

31-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

30-Mar / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

29-Mar / Random Babble / wpr

28-Mar / Feedback, Suggestions and Issues / dfosterf

28-Mar / Random Babble / Martha Careful

26-Mar / Random Babble / Mucky Tundra

25-Mar / Random Babble / Martha Careful

24-Mar / Random Babble / packerfanoutwest

24-Mar / Random Babble / Zero2Cool

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.