sschind
  • sschind
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9 years ago
This is going to be long just so you know.

I'm sure I'm going to get flack from the usual gang of nay sayers for being a kool aide drinking (wait, he's gone isn't he) homer glasses wearing, pom pom waving, Mike and Ted apologist but I will tell you why last nights game has me excited for the rest of the season. It comes in two parts but before I get into that let me tell you what didn't make me excited about the rest of the season. It doesn't have anything to do with the first 60 minutes of the game last night and it doesn't even have anything to do with the last play. Or at least not the play itself. Aside from a decent performance from the defense I pretty much watched the entire game with much of the same feelings I have had since the loss to the Broncos. I'm sure I don't have to explain what those feelings are to most of you. What has me excited for the rest of the season was Aaron Rodgers on the field post game interview. He seemed excited and happy for the first time in a long time. I'm sure he has calmed down some and his subsequent interviews will show a bit more decorum. Stuff like "we still have work to do" and "we take it one game at a time" which is all well and good but seeing his excitement after that play made me hopeful that maybe something will shake loose. Not only for him but for the entire team.

In no way am I placing the entire blame for the funk this team has been in at AR's feet. Lord knows there is plenty of blame to go around but he is the one who gets the lions share of the glory when they win so he gets the lions share of the blame when they lose. The thing is he is the leader of this team and for the last how many weeks he hasn't been acting like a leader. That may be a little harsh maybe I should say I don't get the feeling that he was feeling like a leader. I can't say as I blame him. I'm sure he is aware that his performance was off but I am also sure that he was more than a little disappointed in the performances of his team mates. With all that going on it can be tough to stay happy. For a few moments there at the end of that game I saw that happiness return.

Ok, so that's one part of the reason for my optimism. The second part, and this is the part that will have some fans making the homer claim, is that I honestly feel that this is a talented team. We have our weaknesses certainly but many of these players are the same ones who had us predicting we would have the best offense in the league. Were we wrong about these players? Maybe, but I don't think so. If not for the simple reason that they are the same players that gave us one of the best offenses in the league last year. Was Jordy Nelson THAT much of a factor last year? So much so that his absence causes the rest of the payers to play like crap? I don't think so. What that tells me is that I know what these players are capable of. I can't tell you why they have not performed up to what I believe their abilities to be but I can be hopeful that something happens to allow them to get back there. If that does happen I know they can be great again. That's on the offensive side of the ball. The last few weeks the defense has been playing solid football and when was the last time we felt like the defense was what was keeping us around. That alone makes me optimistic that we can stay in these game. Granted our opponents have not been the cream of the crop offensively but you can't expect to play well against the good guys if you can't play well against the bad guys.

If the defense can play the way they have been and the offense can wake up I believe we can be that hot team at the end of the season and it can carry us through. Will it be easy? Of course not. The Panthers are for real folks and as much as I hate to admit it the vikings are going to be tough. The Cardinals will probably be even tougher. I see them as the three biggest obstacles to our getting back to the SB and I feel like we are still better than the vikings.

Its not like I had given up on these feelings through the slump. I have always felt that this is a talented team and if they just played up to the ability I think they have we would be in contention. Its just that as the weeks went by and the games were lost I got the feeling that something was lost. Something was missing. Last night, after that play, I think I may have seen it come back. If Aaron can start having fun again. If he can start enjoying the game he is playing maybe he can pick up the rest of the team or maybe some of it will rub off depending on how you want to look at it and we can become that team I feel we can be.

Do I think we will win the SB this year. My heart says yes, my head says maybe but my gut says no (unfortunately for me my gut is probably my most prominent feature if you know what I mean) That does not mean I am going to pack it in and call it a season. As long as my head and my heart are around my gut will be outnumbered so I will continue to watch with optimism. I can do no less. If I had the attitude that this team sucks, a sentiment I've seen more than once, especially n the game day chats, and that what we have seen is what we will always have and there was no hope for advancement then I would have to wonder why I was still watching at all . Why would you continue watching if there was no hope.

Sorry about the long post (I warned you) but this is why I am excited about the rest of the season. More excited than I was at about 10:00 last night that is for sure and its mainly because of that one 30 second or so interview.
luigis
9 years ago
I think many of our issues were mental. We know Aaron is not the player we saw in the last 6 games, we know Lacy is in the doghouse for whatever he does during the week...

Maybe this will be the spark we needed to blow away all those issues. Now our whole season has a theme, it's no longer "the one without Jordy" it is "the one with the Hail Mary"


Luis
nerdmann
9 years ago
This type of self shitting is routine. We're just doing more of it now.

I'm disappointed, because I thought after last January, this issue would have been taken care of.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
Zero2Cool
9 years ago
Packers played an important conference/division (that's crucial for tie-breakers) game while resting their starting RG, RT, CB2 ... AND won the game. Even Ty Montgomery is getting more rest, although, I think he's going to be on injured reserve before the field.

I've been saying for awhile now that the final quarter of the season is when my interest is really piqued. Guess what, we're in the final four games. I would not be surprised one bit if the Packers finished 12 - 4.
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PackFanWithTwins
9 years ago
I agree with Rodgers looking like he was enjoying himself and being excited which I don't think I've really seen from him for more than just this season. I think he might be trying to hard and putting to much into being OC as well as QB. And I also think the defense has been playing pretty well.

I think there is enough talent but I won't get my hopes up until I see a change in the offensive scheming and play design. The potential of the team is being handcuffed by McCarthy and Clements.
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DoddPower
9 years ago

Packers played an important conference/division (that's crucial for tie-breakers) game while resting their starting RG, RT, CB2 ... AND won the game. Even Ty Montgomery is getting more rest, although, I think he's going to be on injured reserve before the field.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



If Montgomery has a chance of playing this season or even in the playoffs, the Packers should give him the opportunity. He's about the only hope to improve things offensively from a talent perspective. The Packers need every bit of talent they can possibly muster. I don't think they can get it done offensively with what they currently have. Monty probably won't change that, but at least there's a small chance along with hopeful improvement from other players.

nerdmann
9 years ago

If Montgomery has a chance of playing this season or even in the playoffs, the Packers should give him the opportunity. He's about the only hope to improve things offensively from a talent perspective. The Packers need every bit of talent they can possibly muster. I don't think they can get it done offensively with what they currently have. Monty probably won't change that, but at least there's a small chance along with hopeful improvement from other players.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



Monty is explosive enough to that DCs will have to account for him. This will help other guys get open. He could be a huge factor.

Carolina is NOT for real imo. Fuck them.

If we can hold Phoenix to under 450 yards, we can beat them. To do that, we must play with a lead.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
sschind
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9 years ago

If Montgomery has a chance of playing this season or even in the playoffs, the Packers should give him the opportunity. He's about the only hope to improve things offensively from a talent perspective. The Packers need every bit of talent they can possibly muster. I don't think they can get it done offensively with what they currently have. Monty probably won't change that, but at least there's a small chance along with hopeful improvement from other players.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



I agree about Monty. I liked the pick and I liked the way he was coming along before the injury. There is not going to be a magic bullet savior signed in the last 4 weeks who will increase or talent level significantly. If we want to increase the talent level on the field like you said, Monty is the best way to do it.

As far as the talent we are fielding now would you say that we were not talented last year as well because it is essentially the same team minus Nelson. I can't believe that what so many of the players showed last year was not talent. I don't know where it went this year but like I said, I believe the talent is there somewhere, waiting to come back. I just hope it comes back soon, like within the next 9 days.

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Zero2Cool (21h) : Tua’s old DC won a Super Bowl Year 1 with Tua’s former backup
Mucky Tundra (22h) : *winning MVP
Mucky Tundra (23h) : Funny observation I've heard: Carson Wentz was on the sideline for both Eagles Super Bowl wins w/guys supposed to be his back up winning
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : NFL thought it would get more attention week preceding Super Bowl.
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Yes, the Pro Bowl. It was played Sunday before Super Bowl from 2010-2022
packerfanoutwest (10-Feb) : pro bowl
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : From 2010 to 2022, it was played on the Sunday before the Super Bowl
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : They moved it to the BYE week before Super Bowl several years ago.
packerfanoutwest (10-Feb) : it was always after the SB.....
beast (10-Feb) : Though I stop following pro bowl years ago
beast (10-Feb) : I thought the pro game was before the Super Bowl?
packerfanoutwest (10-Feb) : ok now for the Pro Bowl Game in Hawaii
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : If I was Philly I would try to end it instead of punting it
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : VICTORY! We have (moral) victory!
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : Hey they mentioned that we 3-peted
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : seems to me the 49ers should have traded Aiyuk when they had the chance
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : if the Eagles get it down to the 1, do they Tush Push or give it to Barkley?
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : 49ers have a money problem if they want to sign their QB
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Wait for real? Didn't he just get an extension two years ago?
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : 49ers gonna trade Deebo. Interesting
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : Replays always never seem to show the holdings
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : Great throw by Hurts
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Where Carter falls prey to bad off the field influences (to be clear, not saying he'd clip someone though)
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Had Carter not gone to Philly were they already had a lot of old college friends, he ends up in a similar spot to Aaron Hernandez
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : I think some of his coaches told scouts to stay away
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : the street racing incident+conditioning and motivation problems
beast (10-Feb) : Then Carter was street racing, where the other car crashed and people died... and other teams were scared to pick Carter for some reason
beast (10-Feb) : I think the Saints traded up, giving their next year 1st to the Eagles, and then they sucked and Eagles got the 10th overall pick
packerfanoutwest (10-Feb) : wtf Barkley?
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : Getting Carter and Nolan Smith in the first round in 2023 was pretty darn good
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : for some reason i'm thinking of a draft where the Eagles where in the mid 20s and a top player fell all the way to them
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : I think so. I would need to look it up. Think it may have been Carolina's pick.
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : i'm not sure who i'm thinking of now
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : oh fuck me i messed that up
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Jordan Davis was 13th overall
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Carter was 9th overall
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Eagles had 15th and 10th selections, moved to 13 and 9 to get Davis and Carter back to back
Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Eagles traded up for Carter, didn't they?
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Obviously he was a huge risk but getting a top 5 talent on the dline in the mid 20s is fortuitous
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Jalen Carter falling into their lap certainly helps
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : And we could only wish to have this type of D
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : It's not like Philly has had low draft picks, but has managed to get themselves a top notch pass rush. We spend so much draft capital of D
packerfanoutwest (10-Feb) : another crap halftime show
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : I think it is over, but then I think of Atlanta and want Philly to go in with the same intensity in the second half
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : And with a Pass Rush that might as well be on a milk cartoon and no Jaire
Martha Careful (10-Feb) : I cant help but feel good about how well the Packers D played in Philly during the playoffs
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : this game is over
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