Zero2Cool
9 years ago
Any honest competitive athlete will tell you that you target a team's weakest link. We all agree on that, right? Yes, of course, because you are smart and you know a chain is only as strong as it's weakest link.

If you know the opponent has a player with an rib injury, you're going to put a little extra oomph into that area and probably even target that area. A plethora of players have admitted this and nearly ever retired player acknowledged they did too.

The injury report the NFL mandates needs to go, or overhauled. It is not our right to know the health of a player, nor is it that of any team.

Why do we feel the need to know why a player did not practice or why they were limited? It is absolutely none of our business and serves no one any benefit whatsoever.

Solution one is to abolish it altogether. Solution two would be to list the level of participation of players who did not participate fully in practice. No reason given, just simply Player X was limited in practice. That is all that WE should be told and that is all WE should be demanding.

Proof the NFL does not care about the health of the players can be found in the fact that they still FORCE teams to produce injury reports that other teams use as weapons to further hurt players.
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beast
9 years ago

The injury report the NFL mandates needs to go, or overhauled. It is not our right to know the health of a player, nor is it that of any team.

Why do we feel the need to know why a player did not practice or why they were limited? It is absolutely none of our business and serves no one any benefit whatsoever.

Solution one is to abolish it altogether. Solution two would be to list the level of participation of players who did not participate fully in practice. No reason given, just simply Player X was limited in practice. That is all that WE should be told and that is all WE should be demanding.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I would be against getting rid of it altogether, at the very least I think teams should be forced to list the "Game Status" which list weather a player is Probable; Questionable, Doubtful or Out...

As for getting rid of the "Injury" part which list what's wrong with the player... I would be alright with that. Though maybe something added in it's place... such as a Return Status... like is it "Day to Day" type injury, "Couple of Weeks" type injury, "Month" injury... etc...

Also while we're talking about changing the injury stuff... IF the NFL is going to do this return IR deal... why not make it possible for all players? And not just a single one per year? I feel like it should be an all or none type deal... not a single player.
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DoddPower
9 years ago

Any honest competitive athlete will tell you that you target a team's weakest link. We all agree on that, right? Yes, of course, because you are smart and you know a chain is only as strong as it's weakest link.

If you know the opponent has a player with an rib injury, you're going to put a little extra oomph into that area and probably even target that area. A plethora of players have admitted this and nearly ever retired player acknowledged they did too.

The injury report the NFL mandates needs to go, or overhauled. It is not our right to know the health of a player, nor is it that of any team.

Why do we feel the need to know why a player did not practice or why they were limited? It is absolutely none of our business and serves no one any benefit whatsoever.

Solution one is to abolish it altogether. Solution two would be to list the level of participation of players who did not participate fully in practice. No reason given, just simply Player X was limited in practice. That is all that WE should be told and that is all WE should be demanding.

Proof the NFL does not care about the health of the players can be found in the fact that they still FORCE teams to produce injury reports that other teams use as weapons to further hurt players.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I've never understood why some crybabies (::cough cough:: Nerd) feel entitled to detailed injury information. It's just like environmental regulation. Folks are only going to do the BARE MINIMUM possible to avoid getting in trouble and not a bit more. Just as they should.
nerdmann
9 years ago

I've never understood why some crybabies (::cough cough:: Nerd) feel entitled to detailed injury information. It's just like environmental regulation. Folks are only going to do the BARE MINIMUM possible to avoid getting in trouble and not a bit more. Just as they should.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



Injury reports were originally created to cut down the influence of gambling in sports . If everyone has the same information, then no one has an unfair edge. This means that organized crime has less influence and is less likely to engage in covert activity such as point shaving or game rigging.

It's not a question of people being "cry babies." It's a question of the integrity of the game.
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DoddPower
9 years ago

Injury reports were originally created to cut down the influence of gambling in sports . If everyone has the same information, then no one has an unfair edge. This means that organized crime has less influence and is less likely to engage in covert activity such as point shaving or game rigging.

It's not a question of people being "cry babies." It's a question of the integrity of the game.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



If you say so, cry baby. I think Zero's recommendations are just fine. Here's some tissues and a shoulder!! 🤬 [giddity] [giddity] [twocents]
Zero2Cool
9 years ago

Injury reports were originally created to cut down the influence of gambling in sports . If everyone has the same information, then no one has an unfair edge. This means that organized crime has less influence and is less likely to engage in covert activity such as point shaving or game rigging.

It's not a question of people being "cry babies." It's a question of the integrity of the game.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



If we are to worry more about the "integrity" of the game over the well being of the PEOPLE (yes, they are PEOPLE) who play the game, we have lost.
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DoddPower
9 years ago

If we are to worry more about the "integrity" of the game over the well being of the PEOPLE (yes, they are PEOPLE) who play the game, we have lost.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Don't hate the player, hate the game. If the injury reporting system isn't achieving the results the league wants, the league needs to change the policies and requirements. Otherwise, it is what it is and I blame no one for doing the minimum.
nerdmann
9 years ago

If we are to worry more about the "integrity" of the game over the well being of the PEOPLE (yes, they are PEOPLE) who play the game, we have lost.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



How does the integrity of the game take precedence over the well being of the players?
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
DoddPower
9 years ago

How does the integrity of the game take precedence over the well being of the players?

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



You might get his point (whether you agree with it or not) if you actually read his initial post.
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