*** split this for it's own discussion because it had absolutely no place where it was and it's something interesting on its own right - I created the title, not dakota so fault me for that, not him ***
It's too bad more posters in this forum don't see this. 2 Lombardis with 30 years of elite quarterback play = epic fail by management.
Originally Posted by: DakotaT
The epic failure here is the lack of one doing any sort of research before spouting off. I mean, it's 2015 and to say the Packers have had elite quarterback play since 1985? That is crazy talk! 🤣
Brett Favre and Aaron Rodgers overlapped for three years.
Mike Holmgren bailed on the Packers after 1998.
Bob Harlan went against his better judgement and gave GM and HC roles to one person.
Brett wasn't even elite until about 1994 if you wanna be generous and he had some pretty awful seasons. I would say he gave us elite quarterback play in 10 of 16 seasons and again, that is being very generous. He had two GM's and three HC's and several OC's and quarterback coaches.
1992 - 1998: Ron Wolf + Mike Holmgren + Brett Favre
1999: Ron Wolf + Ray Rhodes + Brett Favre
2000: Ron Wolf + Mike Sherman + Brett Favre
2001 - 2004: Ted Thompson + Mike Sherman + Brett Favre
2005: Ted Thompson + Mike Sherman + Brett Favre
2006 - current: Ted Thompson + Mike McCarthy + Aaron Rodgers
That's six different GM+HC+QB combinations over 23 years with 3 super bowl appearances and 2 trophies.
If Holmgren stays around, we have another trophy or two in the case.
The failure was replacing Holmgren with Rhodes and Sherman. That really screwed us over with the benefit of hindsight of course, lol.
You can't say because a QB turned out to be elite that he was elite the moment he donned a uniform. That would be presumptuous.
Brett gave us about 10 elite QB play years, which is a LOT. Aaron Rodgers has given us close to 5 elite years of elite QB play.
That all being said, 15 combined years of having an elite QB and only 2 super bowl trophies just shows how incredibly difficult it is to win a Super Bowl and more reason we should APPRECIATE the success we have instead of being whine-asses about not winning every game of every season.