lolleren
9 years ago
Am I the only one who came away really disappointed in Sam Shields? He really did not look good my eyes. Hope he can pick himself up for next game.


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gbguy20
9 years ago
He had his ups and downs. That play in the end zone where he knocked away the toss up to jeffry was pretty great
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steveishere
9 years ago


And I think holding call on Bakhtiari might of been a good call... Bakhtiari likes to lock onto a defenders by grabbing and holding onto them... he does a pretty good job normally of not getting called on it and so he keeps doing it. But once in a while something happens where he doesn't hide it well enough, or the defender moves in a way the ref can see it and they call it.

Originally Posted by: beast 



I don't know just going off my memory it looked like Bakhtiari simply bent Allen backwards. He might have been holding on to him but I don't think he dragged him to the ground or anything he just whooped him. It's kind of picky to call that IMO, if you are going to make that call and be consistent throughout the game you will never stop throwing flags. That to me makes it a bad call.
Cheesey
9 years ago

Am I the only one who came away really disappointed in Sam Shields? He really did not look good my eyes. Hope he can pick himself up for next game.

Originally Posted by: lolleren 



You were not alone. He was in NO way close to the good player he has been in the past. Hopefully he will get his head on straight and get back to his old self.
He doesn't have the same guys backing him up on the field that he had before. Maybe he's pressuring himself too much.
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beast
9 years ago

I don't know just going off my memory it looked like Bakhtiari simply bent Allen backwards. He might have been holding on to him but I don't think he dragged him to the ground or anything he just whooped him. It's kind of picky to call that IMO, if you are going to make that call and be consistent throughout the game you will never stop throwing flags. That to me makes it a bad call.

Originally Posted by: steveishere 



Bakhtiari didn't drag him down... just held onto his jersey (and the call was holding) which the hold became clear when Allen fell to the ground. I'm not sure why Allen fell to the ground but I thought he might of slipped attempting to get off Bakhtiari's hold or trying to reserve field, or fell on purpose trying to get a flag. I wish I could find the play online and rewatch it.

But Bakhtiari holds and normally does a very good job of getting away with it. I was watching the highlights of the 2013 Bears game (Peppers last game as a Bear) and Bakhtiari clearly held Peppers for a second on a Cobb Touchdown. As Peppers rushed up the field, Rodgers slide down closer to the line, as he did, Peppers reversed direction (because Bakhtiari was no longer in between the two) and Bakhtiari held onto Peppers no letting him get away. It wasn't called and it was a touchdown.

Like I have said, Bakhtiari normally does a good job of getting away with the holds when/how he does them, but once in a while he'll be called on them, he had had let go once Allen fell, then the ref probably wouldn't of known he did it that time either.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap2000000305914/Randall-Cobb-7-yard-TD-catch 
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