musccy
10 years ago

I'm not saying that one cannot compartmentalize. That's exactly what I do. I can appreciate what Brett did on the field while knowing that he's not the best guy. The point above was that it's not just about the recent conspiracy items (purple shirt, not much love for current organization, etc. etc.) but also all of the things that happened in the past. The conspiracy items alone aren't much, but when cumulatively added to everything that happened in the past, it does leave some doubt for many. Maybe an easier way to say it is that Favre likely shouldn't get much benefit of the doubt in these situations. At least not yet. I think he still need to show the current organization some things. The same applies for Ted Thompson, Mike McCarthy, et al. If everyone has truly moved on, make that abundantly clear so we can all forget about it entirely.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



I understand why people come to some of those conclusions, I just don't agree with it. People expected too much. First time in GB, he kissed some ass, thanked a lot of people, said he messed up, and acted humble. Cynical Bert dislikers like you and me probably don't view it as purely authentic, but in my opinion, he did enough of what he was supposed to, he acted the part.
DoddPower
10 years ago

I understand why people come to some of those conclusions, I just don't agree with it. People expected too much. First time in GB, he kissed some ass, thanked a lot of people, said he messed up, and acted humble. Cynical Bert dislikers like you and me probably don't view it as purely authentic, but in my opinion, he did enough of what he was supposed to, he acted the part.

Originally Posted by: musccy 



You're probably right. He likely did "just enough." That would probably equate to like a C+ effort or something like that. Maybe a B. Some of us were hoping for more so that it could all be kumbaya and one big happy Packers family again. That didn't happen. I think a few simple sentences over the course of 30 seconds to one minute could have made a difference. But Favre is certainly under no obligation and as I said previously, perhaps he doesn't intend to be an integral part of the organization such as a Bart Starr or even Joe Namath with the Jets. If that's the case, than so be it. Perhaps some of us just had an expectation issue. Bart Starr has set the bar incredibly high, after all.
musccy
10 years ago

You're probably right. He likely did "just enough." That would probably equate to like a C+ effort or something like that. Maybe a B. Some of us were hoping for more so that it could all be kumbaya and one big happy Packers family again. That didn't happen. I think a few simple sentences over the course of 30 seconds to one minute could have made a difference. But Favre is certainly under no obligation and as I said previously, perhaps he doesn't intend to be an integral part of the organization such as a Bart Starr or even Joe Namath with the Jets. If that's the case, than so be it. Perhaps some of us just had an expectation issue. Bart Starr has set the bar incredibly high, after all.

Originally Posted by: DoddPower 



He had a lot going on that weekend. I think he flew in Friday night, had an afternoon press conf, addressed the fans, the banquet, flag football the next day. I get why a sentence or two could have been thought out and beneficial - but he had a ton of people to thank/acknowledge, which he did literally for hours this weekend, and we're overlooking that to fuss over why he didn't say a few additional sentences.

As you alluded to, just because LeRoy, Bart, Kramer, etc. have been so involved doesn't mean Bert is obligated to do so too. It'd appear he still holds a grudge against Ted and Mike...I'm on their side, but I get why Bert feels slighted still, whatever, so be it. He was and likely still is a self-absorbed, attention hogging, drama queen, but he kumbaya'd with most of the organization and fans so close enough as far as I'm concerned.
nerdmann
10 years ago

He had a lot going on that weekend. I think he flew in Friday night, had an afternoon press conf, addressed the fans, the banquet, flag football the next day. I get why a sentence or two could have been thought out and beneficial - but he had a ton of people to thank/acknowledge, which he did literally for hours this weekend, and we're overlooking that to fuss over why he didn't say a few additional sentences.

As you alluded to, just because LeRoy, Bart, Kramer, etc. have been so involved doesn't mean Bert is obligated to do so too. It'd appear he still holds a grudge against Ted and Mike...I'm on their side, but I get why Bert feels slighted still, whatever, so be it. He was and likely still is a self-absorbed, attention hogging, drama queen, but he kumbaya'd with most of the organization and fans so close enough as far as I'm concerned.

Originally Posted by: musccy 



It's a baby step, but a crucial one. Thinks are superficially "OK" now.
“Winning is not a sometime thing, it is an all the time thing. You don't do things right once in a while…you do them right all the time.”
DoddPower
10 years ago

It's a baby step, but a crucial one. Thinks are superficially "OK" now.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Exactly. It's not how I would have handled the situation unless I still held a grudge, but that's the case with lots of the things Favre has done, lol.
PackerTraxx
10 years ago
Time heals all wounds...hopefully it doesn't take too much time. The Packers seem to be over it and have reached out and moved on, the rest seems to be more up to Brett.
Why is Jerry Kramer not in the Hall of Fame?
sschind
10 years ago

Time heals all wounds...hopefully it doesn't take too much time. The Packers seem to be over it and have reached out and moved on, the rest seems to be more up to Brett.

Originally Posted by: PackerTraxx 



Or as the sign in the cobblers window said "Time wounds all heels"

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