beast
9 years ago

Both Jenkins and Jennings felt the Packers disrespected them and handled things unprofessionally. The theme here is (and stop me if you've heard this before, e.g. 2008) the team did not communicate their desire to retain the player.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Yeah I do think this would be the biggest flaw in having 🇹🇹 and no real owners, but maybe Mark Murphy should be stepping in here (though from the sounds of it, he tries to stay out of 🇹🇹 and 🇲🇲 way when it comes to football issues.

But from the sounds of it, 🇹🇹 doesn't kiss up to anybody nor does he wine and dine players. And players can be divas, and want to be felt wanted by having someone wining and dining them and chasing after them.

That is where I think Herschel Walker's point of Cowboy's Jerry Jones comes in that Jones is a horrible GM but one of the best owners. Because he'll wine and dine and kiss up and sweet talk players and buy supports (including what sounds like security and unofficial baby sitters) for his troubled players to attempt to keep them out of trouble while they're on the Cowboys team.

The Packers need to get better of making their players aware of their attentions, they may or may not be telling the agents but the agents may or may not be telling the players or turning it in a good way.


That being said, it's not all on the Packers as both Jenkins and Jennings reportedly turned down the Packers offers under the WRONG ASSUMPTION the Packers were low balling them... but reports have suggested the Packers offers were better than the market offers the players ended up getting, so it's also the agents/players fault for over valuing the market and/or their expectations.

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I believe it was the Redskins that were the high bidders for 3-4 DEs the year Jenkins was a FA and they wanted Jenkins, and Jenkins went in and was unable to get a deal done. Reportedly that was because even the Redskins (who often over paid FAs back then) thought Jenkins contract demands was too far over market price and they went onto the #2 3-4 DE and signed him. So Jenkins and his agent over priced their FA market.

While it was reported the Dolphins were willing to offer a $12 million contract to a WR the year Jennings was a FA... Jennings saw they hired a Packers head coach and assumed he was a shoe in for that contract. But clearly he was wrong, as the GM had control and GM wanted someone else.

So their wrong assumptions is what really lead them to being so pissy about things.
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gbguy20
9 years ago
The above post is exactly the way I feel about it.
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dfosterf (58m) : My guess is the Packers floated the concept of a reworked contract via his agent and agent got a f'
Zero2Cool (1h) : Yes, and that is why I think Rob worded it how he did. Rather than say "agent"
dfosterf (1h) : Same laws apply. Agent must present such an offer to Jaire. Cannot accept or reject without presenting it
Zero2Cool (1h) : I'm thinking that is why Rob worded it how he did.
dfosterf (1h) : The Packers can certainly still make the offer to the agent
dfosterf (1h) : Laws of agency and definition of fiduciary responsibility
dfosterf (1h) : Jaire is open to a reduced contract without Jaire's permission
dfosterf (1h) : The agent would arguably violate the law if he were to tell the Packers
Zero2Cool (1h) : That someone ... likely the agent.
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