greengold
9 years ago
Excellent read. If Clay is as upset as McGinn makes him sound, you gotta wonder where his heart is.

Maybe (hopefully) we are just reading too much into McGinn's comments. Packers were obviously better when they could get the best players on the field in whatever combination.

I realize everyone was consumed by the draft late last week, but I was still really surprised that not more was...

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Cheesey
9 years ago
I think he's a prima-donna.

He should do what he's told to help the TEAM. Not "whine" that he isn't in the spot on the field where he wants to be.
He's being paid a TON of money. Suck it up and do what you are told to do. Man up!

It's OK to say you wish you could play in a different position, but when push comes to shove, say "What can I do that helps the TEAM more?" and DO IT!
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Pack93z
9 years ago
My opinion, I think it is speculation that Clay is upset opposed to stating what he has stated all along, he would rather play the outside position than the interior.

From a pure football position, you take far less punishment on the edge as opposed to the middle in terms of the backing position. Generally, outside you really only need to look for physical engagement from one angle verses in the interior where you have to have your head more on a swivel in terms of heavy combat and punishment. In a 3-4, both spots afford you to make plays regularly, one spot is certainly more physically demanding that the other. There... I speculated as well... lol.
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beast
9 years ago
Honestly I don't see the big deal in these comments...

Several sources very close to Clay Matthews say he wants to get back to playing outside linebacker full-time. He took one for the team in 2014 shifting inside in an emergency.



1) Of course pass rushers want to pass rush as much as possible... it's what they enjoy to do.

2) Matthews did shift to inside during an emergency for the Packers

The only thing that's questionable here is "took one for the team" ... FROM unknown "several" sources... how often do "several" sources use the same phasing like that?

And the article said,

and there’s no reason to think it isn’t based on comments made by ... younger brother Casey last November



Casey who seemed to be poking at his brother a little with comments about him before the Eagles (who Casey was playing for at the time) played the Packers.

When seeing Clay at ILB, Casey said he was surprised and he "had no idea," about Clay playing ILB, but added Clay "likes going after the passer. He doesn't like taking on the linemen. "

But let's be honest, when Clay is going after the passer, he is taking on the linemen often lining up against the LT and going one on one (or two on one if the LT has help). And Clay at 3-4 OLB and often playing 2-4 OLB (which is really a stand up 4-2 DE) often times faces linemen at OLB more than the ILBers who have DL in front of them between them and the OL.



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RaiderPride
9 years ago
There is a huge difference between a player "Calling A Press Conference" and bitching. Between a Player answering honestly a question he was asked in an interview, or a sibling or family member making a comment to a journalist.

Before this thread gets out of hand. I suggest people follow this simple life rule.... Believe nothing that you hear, and only half of what you see.

I may be wrong, and often am, but my guess is Clay is Green And Gold Through and Through.


R.P.



""People Will Probably Never Remember What You Said, And May Never Remember What You Did. However, People Will Always Remember How You Made Them Feel."
Barfarn
9 years ago
Ya gotta know I'm going thru a sex change operation so have a shot at having Clay's children, THAT is how much I love this guy. LOL

If he's decided to not be a team guy, then:
1. cut his sorry dumb A$$;
2. sue him for breach of covenant of good faith ad fair dealing to get the unpaid SB back; and
3. Reverse Barfarn's sex change op; [not necessarily in that order]

But, I don't believe it, probably just some hack sensational journalistic stoogism or his dad will kick Clay in the a$$ when he finds out.

Note: Clay has been playing inside since camp 2013.
greengold
9 years ago
I like the angle that it was little brother ribbing him. Little brother plays inside. I'm sure they give each other the business.
steveishere
9 years ago
You know what, these analysts can talk all they want about how disgruntled and unhappy Clay is but until I see it on the field it's just a bunch of hot air to me. There's certainly no evidence Clay was unhappy since his play got better after he moved and he did nothing but play balls out 100% and made the defense better. If that changes then I'll buy what these dudes are saying but from what i've seen there's no reason to be trashing Clay because of what "sources say"
sschind
9 years ago
This is a perfect example of people reading far more into something than they should. I'm sure every player has a position they would prefer and to honestly admit that does not mean they won't give their all if asked to play another position.

It is an example of a reporter trying to drum up readers for his column. Ask a question, embellish the answer a bit or make some wild assumptions and sit back and watch the drama unfold.

PackFanWithTwins
9 years ago
Sources close to Casey say he wished Clay would to back to playing OLB, because he is showing up Casey.

I am really sick of the Sources close to, in sports reporting. I can understand not naming a source when dealing with criminal activity and whistle blowing. But not in sports. If you are going to be a source, have the balls to put your name on it.
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