Packers are one of four teams Andre Johnson eyeing· Page 3

all_about_da_packers
Senior Member

9 years ago

Do you really read for comprehension or are you just quick to fire a rebuttal so you can attempt to feel smart? I DON'T BELIEVE Houston runs a WCO. Do they right now? ...I didn't recall them running WCO ever... do you understand what I DON'T BELIEVE means vs. Houston never ran a WCO? I wasn't sure but didn't recall them running one. IF MEMORY SERVES, and it usually does as I post from memory not googling like you have to do. Memory didn't serve in this rare instance. You come here after googling to try and say I have made something up or am wrong. Fun times for me. You should savor the flavor. You know how many chances you get to do what you attempted to do here.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

Dude, I probably should not have stated the last part about "[your] baseless and factless assertions". Still, if you're going to say something like "Johnson can't play in WCO" as one basis for not signing him, you better make damn sure that is true. A simple google search will tell you that Kubiak grew up under the WCO system of 49ers; everything else was from memory because, you know, I tend to be a fan of the NFL in addition to being a die hard Packer fan.

You want to have original ideas, great! You want to buck "conventional thinking", great! But you can bet I'm calling you out on your faulty reasoning when it is wrong / not supported by data - especially when a quick search can confirm matters for you.

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uffda udfa
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#22

How do you see Davantes regression through the season? I saw a player who was very up and down throughout the season just like you could expect from a rookie, his playoff game in Dallas and his regular season game against patriots are the 2 games that stand out to me as his best, and both came in the second half of the season. I was in Miami for that game and he was good in that, but the 2 others standout more to me.

Originally Posted by: lolleren

He made a ton of rookie mistakes at the end of the year and seemed to be completely oblivious to what he was supposed to be doing on several routes. You shouldn't see that at the end of a season. How is Aaron going to have confidence in him when his big thing is preparation? Davante looked terribly unprepared way too often at the end of the season.

The play I'm referring to in Miami was the fake spike play...by far, his best play of the season. So savvy. Nelson was clueless on that play but Davante got it and made a play and almost scored there. A critical play at that point in the game. Davante doesn't have his head more than on there we likely lose to Miami.

I hope he progresses...his head worries me more than his lack of speed.

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uffda udfa
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#23

Originally Posted by: all_about_da_packers

Thank you... Again, I didn't say for certain I knew he hadn't...just that I didn't remember. I trust my memory on things where others would google. My memory is usually rock solid...it wasn't in this case. I have to do better...if there is doubt, I should google instead of just trusting the old noodle. I don't ever need to make blank sure of anything here...I know I have fans like you who will ravenously come to point out any inaccuracies. The checks and balances are awesome.

I never said Johnson couldn't play in a WCO and further I didn't even say that had I said he never played in one...just that it would be a concern if he hadn't.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

9 years ago

#24

Who still considers the Packers offense to be West Coast?

steveishere
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#25

If the Vikings dumped Jennings I'd be for giving him a look lol. I don't know if his ego could handle that though.

Wade
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#26

Is Johnson willing to be the third or fourth WR (and be paid like one)? I doubt both.

And so I think it ain't gonna happen, no way, no how.

(which, given my predictive abilities, of course means he'll sign with GB in about 45 minutes.)

And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.
Romans 12:2 (NKJV)

all_about_da_packers
Senior Member

9 years ago

#27

I never said Johnson couldn't play in a WCO and further I didn't even say that had I said he never played in one...just that it would be a concern if he hadn't.

Originally Posted by: uffda udfa

Fair enough.

Even if Johnson can play in our system and wants to come to GB, I'm not so sure Ted would be giddy to get him. With Aberdaris, Janis, Myles White, and Davante in the mix, I'm not sure Ted is anxious to add a veteran talent that could overshadow his younger receivers development.

That said, if you had Johnson on the outside with Adams, a slot duo of Jordy / Cobb would be absolutely killer against any opposing defence. Especially against a Seattle, whose starting CBs don't play the slot and their nickel back is injured for most (if not all) of the upcoming season, you have to think Jordy / Cobb in the slot would eat their nickle/dime backs alive.

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PackerTraxx
Senior Member

9 years ago

#28

Who still considers the Packers offense to be West Coast?

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

I don't, but I do think ARod did a better job of taking what was given with dump offs and short routes than he has in the past, especially the Seahags game. So one could say there was a touch of WCO and I believe it smart to use and worked well especially against a good defense. You could see some frustration on the Seahags as we kept getting first downs and kept drives alive.

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uffda udfa
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#29

Originally Posted by: all_about_da_packers

On paper, this would be thrilling. What does he have left? He'll be 34 (used google this time) before season starts. He did go over 1000 yards last season with crappy QB play (google on the yards) but he did only have 3 TD's. Nice seeing him end with 10 catches for 134 in his season finale with the Texans.

If you have to beat Seattle and their killer secondary, it sure couldn't hurt having him if he can adjust to us and Aaron quickly. We have a nice receiving corps but it's overshadowed by Seattle's secondary. Andre would pull us even or give us an advantage where there once was a deficit.
Ted Thompson did pull Peppers last year...I would let Peppers walk in favor of Johnson. Julius just scares me coming into this season with his age and his general approach to the game over the years. I'm afraid giving up for him might be a little too easy.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

uffda udfa
Veteran Member

9 years ago

#30

Andre went with Luck in Indy.

I would rather have Michael Johnson who was cut by Bucs...we were interested in him, previously.

Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."

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