Zero2Cool
10 years ago

For the record, their OC is now the Bills OC....

But Thompson did hire their Offense Line coach

Originally Posted by: packerfanoutwest 


The 49ers offensive coordinator Ted Thompson hired was Mike McCarthy and additionally, McCarthy handles who is hired onto his staff, not Thompson.
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beast
10 years ago

How do you feel about these changes?

Originally Posted by: MintBaconDrivel 



Honestly my biggest question is why the title switch to "associate head coach/offense" and why isn't Capers then the "associate head coach/defense"?

Ron Zook came in last year. It is not as if Zook had his hand on everything and had his scheme being used. Mike McCarthy also said there would be a big culture change in that Special Teams group. This isn't Mike Stock stepping down for Shawn Slocum who was essentially groomed for a handful of years as his under study. This is someone who has had a plethora of coaching being handed the ST unit.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Agreed, Zook was only with them one year... and I've seen the players quoted as saying more positive things about Zook (in one year) then I remember seeing about the other two coaches in a lot more years.

And yeah, maybe Zook didn't do so well in STs in the 90s... BUT do we know he's not a better coach than he was in the 90s? or do we know what his ST player talent was then and how it compares to the current packers? or if those ranking system people are any good or even a good system to be looking at?

If you're wondering, Clements was the OC with the Bills in '04 and '05 and his unit finished 7th and 24th respectively.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Yeah I looked that up... with a strong running game, Drew Bledsoe and two decent WRs in 2004 they struggled early in the season averaging less than 13 points going 1-5 but finished very strong averaging over 36 points per game going 6-1.

In 2005, the Bills released Bledsoe... sort of forcing them to go to second year, 1st round pick J.P. Losman, who kinds sucked and soon replaced by vet Kelly Holcomb (until Holcomb got injured and they went back to Losman). And the WRs and rest of the offense (other than maybe the running game) suffered because of this.

So assuming Rodgers is playing, I'd look more towards his 2004 rookie play calling OC year.


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beast
10 years ago

Who the hell is Jason Simmons?

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 



Duh, he's the new assistant special teams coach like it said in the first post :geek:

Who the hell is Jason Simmons?

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 



Okay more serious now, Simmons was a 10 year NFL ST coverage ace (and DB)... who played with the Steelers (one year under Zook) and Texans (four years under Capers). Simmons has 96 career stops on special teams.

While with the Texans Simmons wore #30, until the Texans signed RB Ahman Green who wanted it... Simmons agreed to let Green have it, under the condition Green pays for "the down payment on a home for an underprivileged family in the Houston area, a sum that ultimately amounted to $50,000."

For the past three years Simmon has been the Packers "team’s (defense) coaching administrator" which includes "working closely with the defensive staff to collect and tabulate weekly production statistics, in addition to assisting at practice with both the starting defense and opponent scout teams."



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Smokey
10 years ago
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