DakotaT
  • DakotaT
  • Select Member Topic Starter
10 years ago
http://pck.rs/1syUgyA 

For all you saying Watt was the MVP, whatever! 🙄
UserPostedImage
uffda udfa
10 years ago

http://pck.rs/1syUgyA

For all you saying Watt was the MVP, whatever! 🙄

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



This is not the real NFL MVP vote...this is like winning the NIT basketball tournament.

The legit award MVP won't be announced until after the SB, at least that's the way it usually works.


UserPostedImage
Ted Thompson sits on his hands per former GM: "because they’ve had 25 fricking years of great quarterbacks. Of course it works. Try it without a special quarterback."


buckeyepackfan
10 years ago
Stat-whore!

😆 😆

Congrats to Aaron, well deserved, I'm betting he is more focused on getting The Packers to another SB.

Not worried about individual awards.
I was addicted to The Hokey Pokey, but I turned myself around!
sschind
10 years ago
since 1975 when they started doing the sports writers award there have only been 6 years in which the same player didn't win both awards. Most interesting to me was in 2003 when the AP award was split between Manning and McNair but the other award went to Jamal Lewis.

Generally the AP award is considered the more prestigious and the "official" MVP award. When you hear 3 time NFL MVP Brett Favre its the AP one they are talking about as Favre only won the Sportswriters MVP 2 times (Lost it to Sanders the year they shared the AP award) Pretty much the only time you hear anyone talk about the sports writers one is during this 2-3 week stretch between now and when the AP award is given out. After that its crickets for the next 50 weeks or so.
DakotaT
  • DakotaT
  • Select Member Topic Starter
10 years ago
Beating Detroit and Dallas on one leg pretty much cinched winning the award.
UserPostedImage
sschind
10 years ago

Beating Detroit and Dallas on one leg pretty much cinched winning the award.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



except that ballots are due in before the playoffs start I believe so the Dallas game wouldn't matter. I agree with the Detroit one though. Even though it really didn't show his value it showed his heart and his determination and I think that might sway a few voters.

TheKanataThrilla
10 years ago

Even though it really didn't show his value it showed his heart and his determination and I think that might sway a few voters.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



I think it showed his value. He was out for a couple of series and Detroit came back. Rodgers comes back in although gimpy and we roll to victory.

Zero2Cool
10 years ago
Really don't understand why anyone would care about MVP awards unless it is the Super Bowl MVP. That's the only one I'm hoping Aaron Rodgers gets. That's just me, carry on.
UserPostedImage
DakotaT
  • DakotaT
  • Select Member Topic Starter
10 years ago

Really don't understand why anyone would care about MVP awards unless it is the Super Bowl MVP. That's the only one I'm hoping Aaron Rodgers gets. That's just me, carry on.

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



I want him to win 4 league MVP's and at least 2 Super Bowls, then we can put Brett as our 3rd greatest quarterback. Aaron has Favre's physical abilities, maybe even more, and Bart's head. That's a pretty good combination. He's the best quarterback and player in the NFL.
UserPostedImage
Gilligan
10 years ago

I want him to win 4 league MVP's and at least 2 Super Bowls, then we can put Brett as our 3rd greatest quarterback. Aaron has Favre's physical abilities, maybe even more, and Bart's head. That's a pretty good combination. He's the best quarterback and player in the NFL.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT 



I will agree that Rodgers is the best QB, but I don't agree as to him being the best player.
I think that should be based on a players merit relative to his position and peers.
And this year, without a doubt that is JJ Watt.

I completely agree with the take by Profootballfocus on this one.

Profootballfocus- Best Player 

Dwight Stephenson Award
In case you hadn’t noticed, PFF isn’t awarding an MVP this season. In most sports the most valuable player is inherently also the best player.
In football the most valuable players are all quarterbacks, such has been the development of the game.....we decided to simply recognize the best overall performance of the NFL season each year – the best player in football – and bestow the Dwight Stephenson Award to that player.
This award comes with no positional bias whatsoever. A guard has every bit as much chance to win it as a cornerback, pass-rusher, quarterback or any other position. All they need to do is dominate and perform during the regular season.

J.J. Watt, DE, Houston Texans

When all is said and done the Dwight Stephenson Award may end up being renamed in J.J. Watt’s honor. This is the award’s third season in existence and the third straight year it has been won by Watt. If anything, this season was even more convincing a victory than each of the past two.

It’s beginning to get difficult to explain just how much better than his peers Watt is. Zero is designed to be the ‘average’ PFF grade. There were 20 3-4 DEs with a grade lower than zero this season. Only 27, including Watt, graded above zero. The second-best of those was Sheldon Richardson with a +39.9 grade, nine sacks, 54 total pressures and 32 defensive stops. Watt posted an insane +107.5 grade, 21 sacks, 119 total pressures and 61 defensive stops. He also had 10 batted passes, four forced fumbles, an interception, a defensive touchdown, a safety… oh, and he scored three receiving touchdowns moonlighting as a tight end in goal-line packages.

Watt is so far out on his own in terms of play that he breaks every graph we create to try and illustrate it, extending axes and generally sitting off on a data point all to himself. He is completely redefining what we thought a defensive player was capable of, and is only getting better.

This season Watt moved around more than ever before, becoming a true edge-rusher more than an interior presence. His highlight reel is mind-blowing, and reminds you of watching NFL players when they were back in high school – he is just bigger, faster or stronger than everybody that is being tasked with stopping him, often all three at once.

We are truly privileged to be watching one of the best players to ever lace up cleats in action.

J.J. Watt is the now three-time winner of the Dwight Stephenson Award. He is the best player in football, period.





I am chosen by many but taken by no one.
Fan Shout
Mucky Tundra (6h) : All the stuff I'm reading from Lions fans are pointing at his toe; he more or less has permanent turf toe in one of his big toes
dfosterf (7h) : Kenny played through it, and a shame he gets little credit for that, imo
dfosterf (7h) : Big men. I hope it's not the undoing of Kenny Clark
dfosterf (7h) : Probably his toe. Pretty much a great center. Toe injuries are brutal to bigen
Mucky Tundra (13h) : Lions All-Pro C Frank Ragnow retires
wpr (30-May) : It's all good.
beast (30-May) : Yeah, and I enjoyed your comments and just attempted to add to it. Sorry if I did it incorrectly.
wpr (30-May) : Beast I never said Henderson was the salt of the earth. Nor even that he was correct. Just quoting the guy.
Zero2Cool (29-May) : What did you do??
Zero2Cool (29-May) : Whoa
beast (29-May) : OMG the website is now all white, even some white on white text
beast (29-May) : Henderson, who admits to taking cocaine during the Super Bowl against the Steelers, might dislike Bradshaw as he lost two Superbowls to him
wpr (28-May) : Hollywood Henderson said Bradshaw “is so dumb, he couldn't spell 'cat' if you spotted him the C and an A.”
Mucky Tundra (28-May) : Cooper stock=BUY BUY BUY
Mucky Tundra (28-May) : Also notes he’s playing with more confidence.
Mucky Tundra (28-May) : @AndyHermanNFL MLF says there was a time last year where Cooper was at 220 pounds. Now he’s at 240 and still flying around.
Mucky Tundra (28-May) : And don't even get me started on Frank Caliendos "impersonations"
Mucky Tundra (28-May) : I got tired of them being circle jerks with them overlaughing at each others jokes.
Zero2Cool (28-May) : It used to be must watch TV for me. now it's "meh" maybe to hear injury update
Mucky Tundra (28-May) : I haven't watched the pregame shows in years and I don't feel like I've missed a thing
Zero2Cool (28-May) : Love says knee affected him all season, groin injury didn't help matters.
Zero2Cool (28-May) : I used to enjoy him on FOX Pregame. Now it's like a frat party of former Patriots.
Zero2Cool (28-May) : LaFleur on Watson: “Christian is doing outstanding. I would say he’s ahead of schedule.”
Martha Careful (28-May) : Bradshaw is a dumb ass cracker. I am so tired of his "aw shucks" diatribe. He should shrivel up and go away.
buckeyepackfan (28-May) : He wad all butt hurt because Aaron duped the media saying he was immunized.
buckeyepackfan (28-May) : Bradshaw needs to retire. He's been ripping on Rodgers ever since the covid crap. He was all hury
Zero2Cool (28-May) : Terry Bradshaw doesn't want Rodgers in Pittsburgh lol wow
Zero2Cool (27-May) : one day contract, which he also feels is pointless, but if Packers came to him, he would
packerfanoutwest (27-May) : Aaron Rodgers talks possibility of retiring with Packers, just another rumor
dfosterf (27-May) : Go watch 2001
Zero2Cool (26-May) : 1984
dfosterf (26-May) : That movie sent a chill through many. 1968.
dfosterf (26-May) : "Open the pod bay doors, HAL"
buckeyepackfan (25-May) : Haven't we all seen thus movie? It doesn't end well!! Lol
Zero2Cool (25-May) : lol Anthropic’s new AI model turns to blackmail when engineers try to take it offline
dfosterf (25-May) : Claude Opus 4
dfosterf (25-May) : AI system resorts to blackmail when its developers threaten to take it offline
beast (22-May) : Colts Owner Jim Irsay has passed away
Zero2Cool (21-May) : Well, emailing should work now. After not working for almost a year. Oops.
Zero2Cool (21-May) : Brotherly Shove did not get enough votes.
Zero2Cool (20-May) : lol our email hasn't worked in months. 7 pages of unverified users
Zero2Cool (20-May) : MySpace Screaming Lord Byron ... Brett Favre.
Zero2Cool (19-May) : Packers have signed first-round pick Matthew Golden, leaving second-round tackle Anthony Belton as their only unsigned draft pick
beast (19-May) : Supposedly he has to take his image, and name off of it... but otherwise could keep selling wine if he wanted to.
Zero2Cool (19-May) : he giving up his win business?
beast (19-May) : Speaking of Woodson, sounds like he'll be a minority owner (0.1%) of the Browns
Mucky Tundra (15-May) : Zero, regarding Woodson, that'd why I find the timing with Williams peculiar
dfosterf (15-May) : Ryan Hall y'all does a great job of tracking thesr
Zero2Cool (15-May) : Fear not!! I planned to do 33mi bike ride tomorrow morning, so ... yeah
Zero2Cool (15-May) : We got some dark clouds and nasty winds right bout now.
Please sign in to use Fan Shout
2025 Packers Schedule
Sunday, Sep 7 @ 3:25 PM
LIONS
Thursday, Sep 11 @ 7:15 PM
COMMANDERS
Sunday, Sep 21 @ 12:00 PM
Browns
Sunday, Sep 28 @ 7:20 PM
Cowboys
Sunday, Oct 12 @ 3:25 PM
BENGALS
Sunday, Oct 19 @ 3:25 PM
Cardinals
Sunday, Oct 26 @ 7:20 PM
Steelers
Sunday, Nov 2 @ 12:00 PM
PANTHERS
Monday, Nov 10 @ 7:15 PM
EAGLES
Sunday, Nov 16 @ 12:00 PM
Giants
Sunday, Nov 23 @ 12:00 PM
VIKINGS
Thursday, Nov 27 @ 12:00 PM
Lions
Sunday, Dec 7 @ 12:00 PM
BEARS
Sunday, Dec 14 @ 3:25 PM
Broncos
Friday, Dec 19 @ 11:00 PM
Bears
Friday, Dec 26 @ 11:00 PM
RAVENS
Saturday, Jan 3 @ 11:00 PM
Vikings
Recent Topics
8h / Green Bay Packers Talk / Mucky Tundra

1-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

1-Jun / Green Bay Packers Talk / wpr

29-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Martha Careful

27-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

27-May / Random Babble / Martha Careful

24-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

23-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / greengold

23-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / earthquake

22-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

22-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / bboystyle

21-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / greengold

20-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

19-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / beast

19-May / Green Bay Packers Talk / Zero2Cool

Headlines
Copyright © 2006 - 2025 PackersHome.com™. All Rights Reserved.