10 years ago
Not a big issue, he will figure it out. You don't have 230 catches in two seasons in college with bad hands. The fact that he is getting open is the more important thing.
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10 years ago
When was the last time a Rookie WR was our #3 guy? He is being asked a lot of because Boykin has regressed and our TEs are below average as receivers.
luigis
10 years ago

When was the last time a Rookie WR was our #3 guy? He is being asked a lot of because Boykin has regressed and our TEs are below average as receivers.

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla 



Seriously, what happened with Boykin?
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10 years ago
he's a rookie. He will be fine. He is just good enough that the other team has to account for him. He is better than most #3 CBs.
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texaspackerbacker
10 years ago
There is the seemingly forgotten option of Janis. Adams is gonna be like Boykin was this year: having to compete with younger players for a spot and playing time. Yeah, he's better than Boykin, but will he be better than Janis or Abbrederis? Or will the seniority oriented Packers give him the benefit of the doubt anyway? For this year, he's the best option. Drops aren't necessarily chronic. I'm still thinking generally positive about him as a possession receiver, but I think he has a fairly low ceiling.
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beast
10 years ago

I am really starting to get tired of the drops By Adams.

Originally Posted by: dyeah_gb 



I just want to point up, that we as Packers fans REALLY got tired of drops from all of the WRs...
Remember now...

~ Jordy Nelson went through a streak of a lot of drops (and dropped a number of passes in the Super Bowl, some have said he might of been Super Bowl MVP broke some Super Bowl receiving records if it wasn't for all his drops).

~ James Jones went through a long streak of drops where fans really got after him, and some didn't forgive him until he had the year leading the NFL in TDs.

~ Finley went trough an off and on streak of drops for a long while there.

~ Cobb had a short streak of drops.

I wonder: I don't know if this has to do with anything, but when some announcers where talking about Rodgers and Rodgers picking which balls he's going to use before a game, they said Rodgers was different than most QBs. Saying most QBs like to take some air out of the ball to let it have a better grip/squeeze. Rodgers likes to fill them up with air and even go a bit over the limit of how much air to allow to put into them.

I wonder if that makes it hard for WRs to catch it. Packers have drafted a number of WRs where when you look at their college careers, they caught everything that came near them. Jones and Adams come to mind most... and then in the NFL they suddenly start to struggle to catch it? I think it's part of Rodgers throwing it hard than their college QB, but I also wonder if it might be because the ball is packed with air and so has less cushion when they try to catch it like the normally had.

Just wondering, couldn't be completely wrong about that.


He must really be showing some skill during practice because the drops during gameday have been a killer the past few weeks. The margin for error is getting smaller as the Pack enter the post-season. There is no room for these mistakes anymore.

Originally Posted by: dyeah_gb 



That or the other options are worse. I mean really who's next? The TEs?



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10 years ago


I wonder: I don't know if this has to do with anything, but when some announcers where talking about Rodgers and Rodgers picking which balls he's going to use before a game, they said Rodgers was different than most QBs. Saying most QBs like to take some air out of the ball to let it have a better grip/squeeze. Rodgers likes to fill them up with air and even go a bit over the limit of how much air to allow to put into them.

I wonder if that makes it hard for WRs to catch it. Packers have drafted a number of WRs where when you look at their college careers, they caught everything that came near them. Jones and Adams come to mind most... and then in the NFL they suddenly start to struggle to catch it? I think it's part of Rodgers throwing it hard than their college QB, but I also wonder if it might be because the ball is packed with air and so has less cushion when they try to catch it like the normally had.

Originally Posted by: beast 



I understand where you're getting at but that's a moot point. If Rodgers prefers the football to be inflated a certain way, then that's the way the ball will be at practice. Outside of personnel, the Packers training team should be bending over backwards as far as Rodgers' demands, so I don't think his football preference matters.

Is Adams becoming a liability? I don't think so. Has he sort of regressed? After the New England game... definitely. But remember, James Jones (drafted for his hands) and Jordy Nelson (drafted for his size and route running) both had the same issues earlier in their careers. Our expectations are just starting to become unrealistic.

The loss of Finley hurts more than people think, but then again, he had the dropsies too.
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Dulak
10 years ago

First let me say that I am happy with the win today. Great job by the D, rushing attack and in the air. But . . .

I am really starting to get tired of the drops By Adams. He must really be showing some skill during practice because the drops during gameday have been a killer the past few weeks. The margin for error is getting smaller as the Pack enter the post-season. There is no room for these mistakes anymore.

Originally Posted by: dyeah_gb 



I really havnt been a fan of adams ... I know he had that decent game a few weeks ago but besides that he wastes our time and opportunities. Often isnt in tune with rodgers and drops alot of passes. Imagine james jones but a james jones that doesnt look for the ball or know when its coming ;)

heck charles johnson looks much better then him.

nerdmann
10 years ago

I just want to point up, that we as Packers fans REALLY got tired of drops from all of the WRs...
Remember now...

~ Jordy Nelson went through a streak of a lot of drops (and dropped a number of passes in the Super Bowl, some have said he might of been Super Bowl MVP broke some Super Bowl receiving records if it wasn't for all his drops).

~ James Jones went through a long streak of drops where fans really got after him, and some didn't forgive him until he had the year leading the NFL in TDs.

~ Finley went trough an off and on streak of drops for a long while there.

~ Cobb had a short streak of drops.

I wonder: I don't know if this has to do with anything, but when some announcers where talking about Rodgers and Rodgers picking which balls he's going to use before a game, they said Rodgers was different than most QBs. Saying most QBs like to take some air out of the ball to let it have a better grip/squeeze. Rodgers likes to fill them up with air and even go a bit over the limit of how much air to allow to put into them.

I wonder if that makes it hard for WRs to catch it. Packers have drafted a number of WRs where when you look at their college careers, they caught everything that came near them. Jones and Adams come to mind most... and then in the NFL they suddenly start to struggle to catch it? I think it's part of Rodgers throwing it hard than their college QB, but I also wonder if it might be because the ball is packed with air and so has less cushion when they try to catch it like the normally had.

Just wondering, couldn't be completely wrong about that.




That or the other options are worse. I mean really who's next? The TEs?


Originally Posted by: beast 



I've hypothesized this myself. It always took young players a year to get used to Favre's fastball. These guys are coming into a new league where you have to play harder and faster. Then you also have to get used to how the ball comes out and how fast it and hard it gets to you. That can require an adjustment.

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steveishere
10 years ago

I've hypothesized this myself. It always took young players a year to get used to Favre's fastball. These guys are coming into a new league where you have to play harder and faster. Then you also have to get used to how the ball comes out and how fast it and hard it gets to you. That can require an adjustment.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Yep, it's not the size of the football that makes it hard to catch it's how fast Rodgers throws it. Adams has never experienced anything remotely close to what he's seeing now. Rodgers throws the ball ridiculously fast but if you notice a WR on this team rarely catches the ball over the middle and doesn't have time to react (get down, juke, etc...) before a defender lights them up. That's because Rodgers gets the ball into the WRs hands before the defenders have a chance to react fast enough to break up the ball. It likely leads to some drops but it's worth it for all the extra completions, YAC, and safety that are gained because it's thrown so hard.
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