TengoJuego
16 years ago
Tackling has evolved over the years, most CB's or even just DB's never really wrap up and tackle, they kinda hit the knees or go a lot lower.

As far as Rouse, I guess you want him to not slam into guys and have more of a tackle approach. I know what you mean, there were a couple times where he hit the ball carrier with his side and other weird ways. But if hes not getting hurt, and thats how he plays, then I'm happy.
bozz_2006
16 years ago
lots of potential. has shown flashes. long way to go.
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porky88
16 years ago
I like Rouse. Great range and good ball skills, but he's not as good as Collins or Bigby in my opinion.

He's a great backup and will probably end up starting some day for some team or maybe the Packers if they can't extend Bigby and Collins.
blueleopard
16 years ago
The guy is big, and he knows how to play physical football.

That being said, he's still got a long way before he reaches his true potential. He takes a lot of stupid angles in coverage, and until he learns how to play the position effectively, he can't progress much as a player.

He has to take advantage of his size and use it to get in the way of opposing passer's passing lanes. He can be a huge disruption to smaller receivers relying on route-running ability, so if he can work on that--he has the potential to be not just great... but elite.

The Packers can't start 3 safeties, but it doesn't hurt having 3 good ones.
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gbpfan
16 years ago
i agree you shouldnt take angles that can hurt your body learn to wrap up and bring the guy down you see players where they hit hard but then they wind up hurting somthing because of how they went after the player but he is improving just like others seems there are a few players that need to remember to wrap up excpecually in the run game
brnt247
16 years ago

After watching him play and then re-watching the game last night. The guy worries me. I love his reckless abandon that he plays with, but man, he's gonna get hurt.

The guy just throws his body around like its made out of rubber. There were a few hits that I didn't think the guy he hit would get up, and also worried that he wouldn't get up either.


I'd also like it if he and the rest of our secondary would wrap up when they hit instead of just lowering a shoulder.

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I think it's a new trend around the NFL. Defensive Backs are being taught to get low and take out their legs because the ball handler can't go anywhere without them. If they were to wrap up there is a good chance that they get ran over or make the tackle but give up 5 extra yards. I don't exactly agree with the whole new philosophy going around with DBack coaches, but it seems to be the way it's going.
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ILikeThePackers39
16 years ago
As you and others have already said, his issue is that he gets himself out of position too often (exception: that pick 6 on Manning, he played that to perfection). That causes the funky angles he ends up taking much of the time. But, since he's a freak of nature he can mostly make up for that with his speed and aggressiveness - that's where you get those crazy tackles, he's not in the right position to wrap up and tackle w/ sound fundamentals.

However, the kid's only a second-year player, so he's got time to fix the issues with his game, and he's such a sick specimen that he's only going to get better. Which will leave us in a very interesting situation having 3 safeties who are all good enough to be starting. A good problem for now, but down the road there's going to be a tough choice to make.
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Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : 49ers gonna trade Deebo. Interesting
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : Replays always never seem to show the holdings
TheKanataThrilla (10-Feb) : Great throw by Hurts
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Where Carter falls prey to bad off the field influences (to be clear, not saying he'd clip someone though)
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : Had Carter not gone to Philly were they already had a lot of old college friends, he ends up in a similar spot to Aaron Hernandez
Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : I think some of his coaches told scouts to stay away
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beast (10-Feb) : Then Carter was street racing, where the other car crashed and people died... and other teams were scared to pick Carter for some reason
beast (10-Feb) : I think the Saints traded up, giving their next year 1st to the Eagles, and then they sucked and Eagles got the 10th overall pick
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Mucky Tundra (10-Feb) : for some reason i'm thinking of a draft where the Eagles where in the mid 20s and a top player fell all the way to them
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Zero2Cool (10-Feb) : Jordan Davis was 13th overall
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