MintBaconDrivel
10 years ago
The Packers are consistent with their lack of discipline. It doesn't stop with the players, it trickles into the coaching staff too. [palm]

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GREEN BAY, Wis. -- Rob Davis says it wasn't on him. Those who were closest to Edgar Bennett on the Packers' sideline say it wasn't on him either.

Days after the Packers' bench was penalized for unsportsmanlike conduct during Sunday's game against the New York Jets, coach Mike McCarthy remains unclear who the call was on.

It was clear that most on the home sideline were upset that line judge Byron Boston didn't call a late hit on the Jets after defensive tackle Sheldon Richardson appeared to tackle receiver Jordy Nelson out of bounds on a second-quarter play.

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10 years ago
I read what your saying , but what are you saying ? You want the staff in military uniforms marching together in locked step ? Please expand your argument and enlighten us all . [cheers]
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10 years ago
If anything it is lack of accountability OR they all agreed it's none of our business and have dealt with it in-house.
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10 years ago

The Packers are consistent with their lack of discipline. It doesn't stop with the players, it trickles into the coaching staff too. [palm]

Originally Posted by: MintBaconDrivel 



Shouldn't it be the other way around? Coaches influencing players with their lack of discipline?
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10 years ago
It may also be that no one knows what the "magic words" were that drew the flag. With everyone yelling at the same time, maybe it was that the whole bench was "picking on him" and not one specific person or one specific sentence.
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10 years ago
I don't have a problem with the penalty.

There was a blatant late hit on Nelson that was not called, everyone saw it, except the ref.

I read all the time The Packers, coaches and players, are soft, they show no emotions.

I have to agree with wpr, there was probably more than one person who could have drawn the flag, it was a blown call and sometimes you just have to call out the ref.

The penalty could have killed a drive, in the end, it didn't.

Getting a little fired up over protecting one of your own players isn't always a bad thing.
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I don't have a problem with the penalty.

There was a blatant late hit on Nelson that was not called, everyone saw it, except the ref.

I read all the time The Packers, coaches and players, are soft, they show no emotions.

I have to agree with wpr, there was probably more than one person who could have drawn the flag, it was a blown call and sometimes you just have to call out the ref.

The penalty could have killed a drive, in the end, it didn't.

Getting a little fired up over protecting one of your own players isn't always a bad thing.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 



That said, what kind of message does it send to your players when all your coaches and staff are saying HEY MAN IT WASN'T ME.

If I'm Rob Davis, and given his job, ESPECIALLY him, I'd be like WELL YOU KNOW I MADE A MISTAKE, I APOLOGIZE TO THE GUYS, I DON'T WANNA HURT THE TEAM. Whatever.

OR, he could say, I'LL TAKE THAT PENALTY, BECAUSE WE NEEDED TO DRAW ATTENTION TO THE MISSED CALL THERE. Right? One could even argue that that missed call helped us later on the supposedly controversial "timeout" play.

But Rob Davis doesn't say that. In fact, no one is.

LESSON TO THE PLAYERS: There is no accountability. But they probably already knew that.
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That said, what kind of message does it send to your players when all your coaches and staff are saying HEY MAN IT WASN'T ME.

If I'm Rob Davis, and given his job, ESPECIALLY him, I'd be like WELL YOU KNOW I MADE A MISTAKE, I APOLOGIZE TO THE GUYS, I DON'T WANNA HURT THE TEAM. Whatever.

OR, he could say, I'LL TAKE THAT PENALTY, BECAUSE WE NEEDED TO DRAW ATTENTION TO THE MISSED CALL THERE. Right? One could even argue that that missed call helped us later on the supposedly controversial "timeout" play.

But Rob Davis doesn't say that. In fact, no one is.

LESSON TO THE PLAYERS: There is no accountability. But they probably already knew that.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Or it could be like I said, no one really said anything inflammatory so how would they know THEY WERE THE ONE? Perhaps no one really stepped over the line in what he said. Why would Davis have to step up and say it was him when 4-5 other people including players were telling the ref he missed the call? [duh]
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Or it could be like I said, no one really said anything inflammatory so how would they know THEY WERE THE ONE? Perhaps no one really stepped over the line in what he said. Why would Davis have to step up and say it was him when 4-5 other people including players were telling the ref he missed the call? [duh]

Originally Posted by: wpr 



Davis's job is to show young players how to do and say the right things. That's essentially his job description.
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10 years ago
At least we didn't have any undisciplined assistant usurp the role of the head coach and call a time out that costs the team a touchdown.

I suspect it is probably well known to the players and the staff who drew the penalty - but nobody sees fit to air the dirty laundry to the media.
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Davis's job is to show young players how to do and say the right things. That's essentially his job description.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



To needlessly fall on the sword for the good of the team? 🙄 [palm]

I am so glad you have access to Davis' job description. But it doesn't surprise me. You seemingly have access to all sorts of information that Packers Inc never discusses in public.
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To needlessly fall on the sword for the good of the team? 🙄 [palm]

I am so glad you have access to Davis' job description. But it doesn't surprise me. You seemingly have access to all sorts of information that Packers Inc never discusses in public.

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As the director of player engagement, Davis is vital in maintaining locker-room cohesiveness and overall player health. He assists players in acclimating to their roles, both on and off the field and in the Green Bay community.

Davis also oversees the Packers’ wide range of programs designed to meet the needs of players and their families in today’s NFL. The department provides a framework of assistance within which players and their immediate family members can address the pressures created by daily life and complicated by the demands of playing professional football. The program is also set up to get players prepared for life after football, and helps players seek educational and vocational opportunities. Davis also developed a mentorship program, aimed at joining Packers players with community leaders who serve as professional mentors.



How is he falling on his sword? No one is asking him to resign over this, it's not some scandal. Point being, he should be providing the example of accountability. Even if it really wasn't "his fault."
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10 years ago

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How is he falling on his sword? No one is asking him to resign over this, it's not some scandal. Point being, he should be providing the example of accountability. Even if it really wasn't "his fault."

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Taking the blame for something that wasn't his fault would be the opposite of accountability. It's nice to know you have access to the Packers locker room though so you know what all is being said as far as accountability outside the media.
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10 years ago
It couldn't have been a bench penalty because their arms moved forward.
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Davis's job is to show young players how to do and say the right things. That's essentially his job description.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



So doing and saying the right thing means saying you did something you didn't do?

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So doing and saying the right thing means saying you did something you didn't do?

Originally Posted by: sschind 



Do you really think that's what I said?

Make an example of yourself taking responsibility for a mistake, instead of having the entire group say IT WASN'T ME.
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Goodell: I got it wrong 

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



So now you want to equate Davis and his job to the Commissioner of the NFL and all his staff and the support he has?

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So now you want to equate Davis and his job to the Commissioner of the NFL and all his staff and the support he has?

Originally Posted by: wpr 



No, I wanna equate you with a scorned little girl. lol

(By the way, Davis would be differentiated, as he did NOT take accountability. Neither did any of the rest of the staff.)
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