Green Bay Packers' projected roster· Page 3

steveishere
Veteran Member

10 years ago

It is a wonderful thing to have a great QB but believe it or not teams actually win without one. The offense may have struggled but the defense is what let them down time after time,

If they had a solid OL and a good RB they would have moved the ball. Lacy did all he could almost all on his own. If they had a strong defense they could have won most of those games. They didn't.

Originally Posted by: wpr

Not really. Year after year almost all playoff teams got at least good play out of their QBs. There are exceptions here or there like Minnesota a couple seasons ago but even they had a historically great season out of their RB. Even us last year without Rodgers went 2-2-1 when we had decent QB play, and that's with key players injured or crippled like Bulaga,CMIII,Hayward,Shields,Perry. We were bad when our QBs played terribly but pretty much any team would be add in all the other injuries and it makes it worse. Our D needs to be better but it was better in 2012 when it was a little healthier. You have to expect a team to still play well even with a few injuries but last year was a massacre.

Dexter_Sinister
Registered

10 years ago

#22

It is a wonderful thing to have a great QB but believe it or not teams actually win without one. The offense may have struggled but the defense is what let them down time after time,

If they had a solid OL and a good RB they would have moved the ball. Lacy did all he could almost all on his own. If they had a strong defense they could have won most of those games. They didn't.

Originally Posted by: wpr

You skipped over one of the most important points. Rodgers was only one of almost 30 players hurt. We still had over 300 combined games missed due to injuries other than Rodgers. That would still be leading the league by about 50 over the next most injured team.

Other than Rodgers injury, if the rest of the team was relatively healthy, they probably win 10-11 games. That isn't the QB positions fault and that isn't what burned them.

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DakotaT
Select Member

10 years ago

#23

Why do people want Matt Flynn replaced with Tolzien? Matt Flynn has proven over and over that he knows our offense inside and out, and can win games when needed to play. Tolzien might have more arm strength and athleticism, but he's being showcased for a trade. Green Bay is a quarterback factory, but I'll stay with the guy that has proven it on the field. Matt is a perfect backup quarterback for us, just hope he doesn't get any stupid offers like Seattle and Oakland gave him.

OlHoss1884
Member

10 years ago

#24

Why do people want Matt Flynn replaced with Tolzien?

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

Because Tolzien is probably as good as Flynn now, and Flynn is not likely to get any better while Tolzien is.

That said, I can live with Flynn as the backup, if that's how they decide to go, but I am for going with the higher upside, all things being about equal.

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