Time to step up: B.J. Raji· Page 2

Mucky Tundra
Honored Member Topic Starter

11 years ago

Maybe it's just the sad truth that Raji can be an difference maker but only with another 2-3 guys around him that are better than him rather than being one of those 2-3 guys like we want him to be.

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beast
Select Member

11 years ago

#12

Those are great points beast. I'm thinking the loss of Jenkins and oddly enough, Howard Green after 2010 were significant losses that ourDL has yet to recover from. Mike Daniels came on in a big way last season, but no one else really did. Was there a truly top DL on our roster in 2012? 2011?

Raji is a role player, and he has been highly ineffective since the loss of Jenkins. Now, we've added Peppers, and we have Daniels entering his 3rd year, and Datone Jones and Josh Boyd entering their 2nd seasons, looking bigger and stronger. I do believe Raji's game will improve as a result.

Originally Posted by: play2win

It seems like when ever someone talked about Raji in 2011, we talk about the loss of Jenkins as being the reason for Raji poor play but I think it's a lot more than just that. Packers also lost Collin and Williams to injuries and Woodson seemed to lose a step (or at least half of one) that season compared to the year before. Yes Williams came back but he wasn't the same for a couple of years after that shoulder injury.

I remember after 2011 season MM said Raji was trying to do too much... I can't say for sure, but I think MM meant Raji was rushing straight up the field trying to get pressure and was leaving a big gap in the defense as the offenses were using that against the Packers, tricking Raji into moving and then running up his gap or screen plays... and he was trying to react/move fast because he knew the DBs were struggling on the backend with a weakend DB group and they were struggling to get more pressure up front.

But the Packers seem to possiblity have a good group of one gap guys know to get pressure and a good group of DBs to cover on the backend. That is if they stay healthy...

play2win
Senior Member

11 years ago

#13

Key injuries and personnel losses can be demoralizing to any team, and I think those can adversely affect some of the healty players remaining on a team.

That 2011 season was such a mess, while at the same time, it was so damn good offensively. That was a really bad time to lose so many important players and lose focus. Set epic, all-time NFL records for defensive futility that year.

wpr
Preferred Member

11 years ago

#14

Now don't hold me to this but it is way past time for Raji to step up.

nerdmann
Premier Member

11 years ago

#15

Losing Jenkins was a calculated risk. Dude was always injured and actually hurt his leg before a game kicking FGs during warm ups.

Always injured+turning 30=Ted not giving you a big money contract.

What F'd us was Johnny Jolly screwing the pooch.

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beast
Select Member

11 years ago

#16

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

I have no idea what the Packers offered Jenkins, but it's rumored that the Packers (during his contract year) offered Jenkins more money than what he ended up getting in free agency from the Eagles. (and the Eagles asked him to take a pay cut from that a year after signing him, only to cut him two years after signing him).

I have no idea if that's true or not, but it's happened before, a player and/or his agent over vaule the market thinking it's going to be better than it is and that out of busting.

Heck it's rumored to just happen with Raji, as he turned down a deal during the season and ended up resigning for one year, four million. And I'm sure some Packers fans would of said it could of happened to Burnett, as they would of offered him less after this last season if he didn't resign before it... but he did resign.

I also heared it happened to Jennings... Packers were rumored to offer him a 10 million per year deal and he turned it down. And ended up still getting a 9 million per year deal... but still it's less.

Part of it has to be luck in trying to guess the market.

play2win
Senior Member

11 years ago

#17

Originally Posted by: beast

Yah, I believe you are right on all 3 players. jenkins was special. it is tough to find a true, capable veteran player like he was, and I believe Peppers is on par, though with a somewhat different skill set. You know how some of these players truly look like a man amongst boys compared to the younger players? Well, I think we finally have that this season with Julius Peppers in a Packers uniform. And, he is without a doubt, hungry for a ring!!!

hardrocker950
Member

11 years ago

#18

I was under the impression that "returning players" meant players returning from injuries.

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister

In this team's case - not much difference.

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