Mucky Tundra
10 years ago

As the Green Bay Packers enter this lull on the NFL calendar, here are some story lines to track heading into the first day of training camp on July 26.

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yooperfan
10 years ago
I'll be watching the middle of the defense.
Since there were no upgrades at ILB, I guess I'll be hoping for a miracle that there will be improvement.
texaspackerbacker
10 years ago
I enjoyed the article and basically agree - with the exception of the order. I don't know, maybe the writer didn't even mean for his order to be order of importance, but it wasn't. Neither is mine hahahaha.

I really hope Tolzien beats out Flynn. If, heaven forbid, Rodgers goes down again, I'd be a LOT more confident with Tolzien (with reps and knowing what he's doing) in there.

As for the Aaron Rodgers paragraph, as I recall, he got his broken collarbone on a pocket pass play. I'm pretty sure MOST QB injuries are in the pocket, not rolling out or beyond the first step or two of a scramble.

The two most important "stories" of the ten IMO are Clinton Dix starting and the effect of Peppers. Those two, however, really aren't even controversial.
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10 years ago

Jamari Lattimore could fight his way into the lineup, but linebackers coach Winston Moss asserted Jones is the starter. The Packers view him as a three-down player.



I ***really*** hope this is proven wrong.

Lattimore, Bradford, some unidentified "nobody", I don't care. If B. Jones is a three-down player, it spells serious defensive weakness.
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DarkaneRules
10 years ago
Brad Jones was playing well last year before his injury though. He put some real good games together. He was a huge liability down the stretch, however the same could be said about a lot of the guys in front of him. In any case, I hope that isn't in the place of Lattimore seeing some time because I think a lot of fans agree regarding his potential.
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Dulak
10 years ago

Brad Jones was playing well last year before his injury though. He put some real good games together. He was a huge liability down the stretch, however the same could be said about a lot of the guys in front of him. In any case, I hope that isn't in the place of Lattimore seeing some time because I think a lot of fans agree regarding his potential.

Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules 



Hawk stepped up and dominated last year - hope he can repeat - Iver never been a fan of jones ... think we paid him 8 mil a year recently ... must be nice



steveishere
10 years ago

Hawk stepped up and dominated last year - hope he can repeat - Iver never been a fan of jones ... think we paid him 8 mil a year recently ... must be nice



Originally Posted by: Dulak 


uh, no. We paid him less than 4m a year with only 3m guaranteed. So many people seem to have this perception like he's got this massive contract or something that's crippling the defense if he doesn't produce when it's really not much of a deal.
steveishere
10 years ago

Brad Jones was playing well last year before his injury though. He put some real good games together. He was a huge liability down the stretch, however the same could be said about a lot of the guys in front of him. In any case, I hope that isn't in the place of Lattimore seeing some time because I think a lot of fans agree regarding his potential.

Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules 



Our ILB position was weird last year because healthy Jones was > healthy Lattimore but healthy Lattimore was > injured Jones. Then Lattimore got injured and was as bad as injured Jones but we really had nothing else behind them because Francios and Barrington were both out.
DarkaneRules
10 years ago
Yep. I believe ILB stays healthy this season. Not sure which position group gets hurt more this year, but it is bound to happen. Happens every season.
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uffda udfa
10 years ago
I like Jones better than Hawk and am not sure why so many are so down on Brad Jones...guy can play, cover, and has amazing speed for an inside guy.

The line that made me raise an eyebrow was the end of this comment: No question, he brings a blend of size (6-4, 247) and speed (4.6 in the 40), but Lyerla still faces long odds at a well-stocked position.

Well-stocked position? Are you joking, Tyler Dunne? There may not be a weaker position on this roster than TE. Not sure what his definition of well stocked is? We have no true #1 TE on this club. Quarless is a joke to me as a threat in the passing game. Bostick flashed a little but is unproven. Ryan Taylor doesn't do diddly on offense. Behind those 3 nowhere near #1 type TE's is Rodgers, Lyerla and Perillo. I wouldn't say Lyerla's odds are long at all, based on talent. If he had no off field issues he'd be a lock for the 53.
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