Dexter_Sinister
10 years ago

We don't know what that injury is. I am presuming it's a normal minor bulge in a disc. Like Nick Collins.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



I was under the impression that it was more than a bulging disk for Collins.

It was ruptured.
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mi_keys
10 years ago
You're all wrong. The players should go in for bloodletting twice a week. That will ensure the structural integrity of their necks.
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DakotaT
10 years ago

I see Franklin as the 4th best of the 4 - Lacy, Starks, Harris, and him. Maybe it's selfish as a Packer fan, but I'd rather see him done than go on to a good career with some other team.

Originally Posted by: texaspackerbacker 



Stash him on IR.


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nerdmann
10 years ago

You're all wrong. The players should go in for bloodletting twice a week. That will ensure the structural integrity of their necks.

Originally Posted by: mi_keys 



You laugh. Bloodletting is actually a very powerful technique for sore throat, chronic headaches, etc. No bullshit.

Don't think it would heal a neck though.
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nerdmann
10 years ago

I was under the impression that it was more than a bulging disk for Collins.

It was ruptured.

Originally Posted by: Dexter_Sinister 



No, it was not.

Collins got kicked in the head and temporarily lost feeling in his extremeties. He got feeling back in a short time, but they scanned and found a "bulge" in a disc.

The doctors told him he needed surgery or they wouldn't clear him to play. I do not believe he needed that surgery. But once he had it, they refused to clear him anyway.
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mi_keys
10 years ago

No, it was not.

Collins got kicked in the head and temporarily lost feeling in his extremeties. He got feeling back in a short time, but they scanned and found a "bulge" in a disc.

The doctors told him he needed surgery or they wouldn't clear him to play. I do not believe he needed that surgery. But once he had it, they refused to clear him anyway.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Google Nick Collins' injury and the majority of articles that come up cite a herniated disc.

Regardless, just as you admit we don't know the full extent or specifics regarding Franklin's injury, we don't know the details of Collins' injury. Yet this hasn't stopped you from trying to speak from a position of authority on it in just about every thread involving injuries.

Collins also wasn't kicked; he lunged at a Panthers running back that hurdled him, unintentionally spearing the running back on the bottom of his upper thigh/rear end.

And regarding your comment about me laughing, you're right. I am. I don't trust bronze age "medicine" that's been shown to be little more than a placebo effect, especially when you're proposing we trust it to ensure the structural integrity of someone's neck when that person's job involves taking repeated, violent shots to the body. That sounds like a recipe for paralysis.
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nerdmann
10 years ago

Google Nick Collins' injury and the majority of articles that come up cite a herniated disc.

Regardless, just as you admit we don't know the full extent or specifics regarding Franklin's injury, we don't know the details of Collins' injury. Yet this hasn't stopped you from trying to speak from a position of authority on it in just about every thread involving injuries.

Collins also wasn't kicked; he lunged at a Panthers running back that hurdled him, unintentionally spearing the running back on the bottom of his upper thigh/rear end.

And regarding your comment about me laughing, you're right. I am. I don't trust bronze age "medicine" that's been shown to be little more than a placebo effect, especially when you're proposing we trust it to ensure the structural integrity of someone's neck when that person's job involves taking repeated, violent shots to the body. That sounds like a recipe for paralysis.

Originally Posted by: mi_keys 



If you want the science behind it all, talk to Dulak. We both have treated many people with the condition successfully.


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sschind
10 years ago

Google Nick Collins' injury and the majority of articles that come up cite a herniated disc.

Regardless, just as you admit we don't know the full extent or specifics regarding Franklin's injury, we don't know the details of Collins' injury. Yet this hasn't stopped you from trying to speak from a position of authority on it in just about every thread involving injuries.

Collins also wasn't kicked; he lunged at a Panthers running back that hurdled him, unintentionally spearing the running back on the bottom of his upper thigh/rear end.

And regarding your comment about me laughing, you're right. I am. I don't trust bronze age "medicine" that's been shown to be little more than a placebo effect, especially when you're proposing we trust it to ensure the structural integrity of someone's neck when that person's job involves taking repeated, violent shots to the body. That sounds like a recipe for paralysis.

Originally Posted by: mi_keys 



Kind of reminds me of the old saying "stick a fork in him, he's done" except this one goes "stick a needle in him , he'll be good to go"

QCHuskerFan
10 years ago
What was the original topic and why is Nick Collins alleged injury (Of which no one here has any real knowledge) the dominant discussion?
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mi_keys
10 years ago

What was the original topic and why is Nick Collins alleged injury (Of which no one here has any real knowledge) the dominant discussion?

Originally Posted by: QCHuskerFan 



Franklin's health.
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