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musccy
10 years ago

Yeah, they certainly have put a lot of faith in JC Tretter taking over that very important starting C position. Given that, I believe they really, really like what they've seen from him. They must. I can trust the position is his, and that they will add depth at the position in this draft.

Originally Posted by: play2win 



It certainly appears at this moment they think very highly of Tretter, and they see him a lot more than you or I do. I still can't see how they don't draft an interior OL/C since we are so thin there right now.



Zero2Cool
10 years ago

Any FA signing is structured while still planning years down the road, so I'm willing to bet my car that Ted and co. have given a lot of thought to planning not only for Cobb and Nelson, but Boykin as well who becomes a RFA after this season.

I doubt anyone is "OK" with the departure of talented players, either in the organization or this board, but you have to take calculated risks with a salary cap.

As I've said previously, nobody knew who Boykin was 200 days ago and the same could very well be said of White, Dorsey, Harper, or draft picks/FA signings. Ted almost always seems to pick up a late rounder/UDFA the week of the draft. We don't see them in practice daily, so we shouldn't necessarily assume the cupboards are bare just because we haven't seen production on the field (yet). You could argue that Ted has had his best success in the draft/UDFAs with WRs.

Originally Posted by: musccy 



586 days ago

What I've seen of him, he seems to catch everything thrown his way.

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isocleas2
10 years ago

Any FA signing is structured while still planning years down the road, so I'm willing to bet my car that Ted and co. have given a lot of thought to planning not only for Cobb and Nelson, but Boykin as well who becomes a RFA after this season.

I doubt anyone is "OK" with the departure of talented players, either in the organization or this board, but you have to take calculated risks with a salary cap.

As I've said previously, nobody knew who Boykin was 200 days ago and the same could very well be said of White, Dorsey, Harper, or draft picks/FA signings. Ted almost always seems to pick up a late rounder/UDFA the week of the draft. We don't see them in practice daily, so we shouldn't necessarily assume the cupboards are bare just because we haven't seen production on the field (yet). You could argue that Ted has had his best success in the draft/UDFAs with WRs.

Originally Posted by: musccy 



I forgot Boykin is a free agent as well. I'm sure we'll try and extend Cobb or Nelson before the season starts but we're leaving ourselves with little leverage in negotiations.

I'd be thrilled if White, Dorsey, Harper, or any of the other seemingly countless street free agents we keep on the back shelves turn out to be big contributors to the team. I'm sure one will prove themselves to be a solid #4 or 5 guy but if we lose Cobb/Jordy would you really want to count on one of them to get major playtime?

The WR position worries me less than tight end however. With the offense becoming more balanced it puts a greater premium on the tight end position which we were probably light on talent at before Finley went down. I know we dig up some decent street free agent tight ends that are serviceable (one of Ted's strengths), but none of them are guys you want to be starters. Imo we have Quarless who would be a solid #2 and that's it. Bostick has a chance to contribute but I think he gets overrated here. We're still missing that #1 TE which we probably only get through drafting one of the top guys in round 1-3.
musccy
10 years ago

586 days ago

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



There are myriad athletes that can excel in camp sans pads or the pressure of 75,000 fans. Boykin had 5 catches for 27 yards in 2012, 49 for 690 some in 2013. I don't think many people saw that coming.

Mucky Tundra
10 years ago

There are myriad athletes that can excel in camp sans pads or the pressure of 75,000 fans. Boykin had 5 catches for 27 yards in 2012, 49 for 690 some in 2013. I don't think many people saw that coming.

Originally Posted by: musccy 



I can't say I saw Boykin coming out of nowhere, but I did have good feeling about him after this catch @ 3:56 (sorry about the craptastic quality)





It's hard to see in the video and they don't mention but that Minnesota DB was draped all over him and got flagged for interference (and keeping with recent GB tradition, he promptly gets hurt right after contributing) . Total clutch catch in a pressure situation for a guy who hadn't seen much time.

Edit: Odd, the youtube BBcode isn't working

Well, here's the link with the time stamp at the play I'm talking about

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Tri0yBhT1O8#t=236
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warhawk
10 years ago

That is a good point musccy.

There are many players who were drafted late or signed as UDFAs who still might come up big for this team. Barrington in the middle is one I am looking forward to seeing this season. Andy Mulumba is another who may develop into a solid OLB for us. I really like Chris Banjo and Sean Richardson, and I'm hopeful both can make significant contributions in 2014. Banjo seems to play way bigger than his size, and Richardson has the size and if he puts it all together, he could be special. I want to see what he and Hayward do together on the same field. Kevin Dorsey and Miles White both could surprise at WR, as could Chris Harper. Lane Taylor at G could take some very large steps forward, as they were pretty high on him last year.

Originally Posted by: play2win 



You also have to think there are several high draft picks that have some pressure to perform to the level they were drafted.
Bulaga, Sherrod, Raji, D.Jones, Perry, Burnett, all need to show they can help to make this a better team and IMO need to make this happen in 2014.
There should be some angst there that I would hope is reflected in off season workouts and training that will carry over into a more productive season this year. There's a lot of talent sitting there and it's time to show up and you know every one of these guys feels that way too.



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joemailman
10 years ago

It certainly appears at this moment they think very highly of Tretter, and they see him a lot more than you or I do. I still can't see how they don't draft an interior OL/C since we are so thin there right now.



Originally Posted by: musccy 



Seldom does Thompson not draft an offensive lineman in the 4th round. Last year it was 2. It's usually a guy who played LT in college but is projected to play Guard or Center in the NFL.

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