play2win
11 years ago

Do you think we have the talent to win if we signed and Paid Bryd? Because doing so would be pretty close to pushing all in. The combined Rodgers, Matthews, Bryd and Shields contracts would make it pretty difficult going forward keeping our FA like Jordy, Tramon. It would really strap the team for a few years where we would really depend on rookies and first contract players to fill in the other positions.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



Haven't we been doing just that very same thing for years? That's all I can recall is counting on rookies and first contract players, since 2010 for sure.

We are long overdue for addressing Safety. I don't want to have to count on a rookie. We can afford Shields, and Jordy. Maybe next years we part with Williams.

Cut the chaff that is marginal talent, and start adding better players. I'm done with a system that rewards mediocrity, aka Brad Jones and Mike Neal. Neither have lived up to their contracts. Cut that away and add better talent.

Why re-sign a player like MD Jennings? Why? For what purpose? He has NO coverage skills. He and players like him have been a big part of the problem in GB.

Start adding top vets who know how to prepare and know how to get the job done. Show the younger guys the way.

I like Richardson, but he could be our 3rd Safety.
nerdmann
11 years ago
Hyde's gonna be fine at S.
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PackFanWithTwins
11 years ago

Haven't we been doing just that very same thing for years? That's all I can recall is counting on rookies and first contract players, since 2010 for sure.

We are long overdue for addressing Safety. I don't want to have to count on a rookie. We can afford Shields, and Jordy. Maybe next years we part with Williams.

Cut the chaff that is marginal talent, and start adding better players. I'm done with a system that rewards mediocrity, aka Brad Jones and Mike Neal. Neither have lived up to their contracts. Cut that away and add better talent.

Why re-sign a player like MD Jennings? Why? For what purpose? He has NO coverage skills. He and players like him have been a big part of the problem in GB.

Start adding top vets who know how to prepare and know how to get the job done. Show the younger guys the way.

I like Richardson, but he could be our 3rd Safety.

Originally Posted by: play2win 



I see two times to use FA. To sign a couple players when starting a building process. Or to fill the final holes to push the team over the top. I'm certain we are not starting a build, and I am not sure we are in position where the signing is what we need to push us over the top. It would all depend on the dline and if the youngsters we have drafted upfront don't get the job done, this signing would be a waste.

I think we might be in a better position next year for a big move like this.
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dhazer
11 years ago
I was watching highlights of the pro bowl safeties and I noticed they tend to blitz and sack the qb, I am trying to think if we actually blitzed our safeties at all this year? Remember when we used to play our safety at the line of scrimmage aka Leroy Butler.
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sschind
11 years ago

Hyde's gonna be fine at S.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



People keep saying that and it may make sense but have the Packers even said they were going to move him? Until the move is done or at least announce it I think it is kind of ridiculous to keep saying Hyde's gonna be fine at S. and leave it at that.

buckeyepackfan
11 years ago

People keep saying that and it may make sense but have the Packers even said they were going to move him? Until the move is done or at least announce it I think it is kind of ridiculous to keep saying Hyde's gonna be fine at S. and leave it at that.

Originally Posted by: sschind 



Burnette and Richardson will probably have the inside track at starting next year.
Both are still under contract.

Have to watch what Ted does with Banjo and Jennings, he brings them back and there's a pretty good chance Hyde will stay at corner.

Lot of people want Ted to go get a safety in FA, but I just don't see where the money is going to come from.

Burnette had a down year, doesn't mean next year won't be different.

Richardson showed some flashes after he finally got back on the field.

Banjo will probably get signed(won't cost much).

I guess we will all just have to wait and see about Jennings.

I can see Ted grabbing 1 maybe even 2 safeties in the draft, but really don't want to have to depend on them to start.
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musccy
11 years ago
I think Byrd will look very expensive. Like buckeye said, where is the money to sign Byrd, Shields, this draft class, and retain at least a few Packer FAs from this year's team going to come from?
nerdmann
11 years ago

I think Byrd will look very expensive. Like buckeye said, where is the money to sign Byrd, Shields, this draft class, and retain at least a few Packer FAs from this year's team going to come from?

Originally Posted by: musccy 



Sign whoever you want. If he sits on the sideline with a hammy, he's not gonna do us much good.

Could we upgrade our players? Sure, especially at this position. But it's not the fundamental issue that needs to be addressed.
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porky88
11 years ago
Jairus Byrd spent three or so years going to school in Northeast Wisconsin. For a period, we actually went to the same school. I probably have a yearbook with him in it. No, I did not know him.

I remember watching him play in high school when he was a freshman. He left after his freshman year when his father took a job with the St. Louis Rams. I doubt this will have any influence on his decision as a free agent if Green Bay shows interest, but he's no stranger to the Green Bay area, which most free agents obviously are.
RaiderPride
11 years ago
Byrd's agent is floating out 9 million dollars per year as a "You Have Him investment." That is a ton of monies.

Jarrett Bush in the secondary will be getting 1.5 million.

So... doing the math 9 million for Byrd and 1.5 million for Bush.

The question is... Is a Byrd in the hand worth six in the Bush.

Tough call.


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