The Green Bay Packers defense: Who is to blame?· Page 2

nerdmann
Premier Member

11 years ago

To me it is a toss up, is it the lack of playmakers at safety or is it the lack of push of our DL? Both need a severe infusion of talent. To second Dakota's comment, how do some of these positional coaches still have a job? When a player like Raji regresses from a pro-bowl player to a waste of space (and not in a good way) where is the fire under his ass?

Originally Posted by: TheKanataThrilla

It's an enigma. But I'll tell you something. The way this team reports injuries, we just don't fucking know. He could have a compound fracture for all we know, but maybe he's just trying to play through it.

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buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#12

There's only 2 players top blame.

Aaron Rodgers and Clay Mathews.

These guys get the big bucks, then get hurt, now when ALMOST EVRYONE says The Packers only hope is to bring in veteran free agents, together they have handcuffed poor Ted Thompson, so he can't make a move even if he wanted.

Don't blame the guys who actually took the field every game, it's these candy-asses who can't stay healthy, especially the ones making the mega-bucks, that are the blame.

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DakotaT
Select Member

11 years ago

#13

Come on Buckeye, even your rah rah ass has to admit Raji has been sucking ass pretty bad out there for two seasons. And I really thought we had a player in him, cause he played so well in our title run. What a disappointment.

beast
Select Member

11 years ago

#14

Talent wise, we match up with any team in the league in all three phases.

And talk all you want about "not replacing Nick Collins." But the fact is, Ted GOT us Nick Collins. Once in a generation talent. What happened? Another sickening injury.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann

I agree with the idea probably not expecting another Collins, but disagree with the defense matching up with all other teams in the NFL.

Might not expect Collins type, but we got to see something better than we saw from Raji, Brad Jones, Perry and M.D. Jennings...

I think questions NEED to be asked (inside the Packers) on why Raji and Perry aren't doing better... Raji looks like he wants to follow the ball with his eyes at times (which that's with in it's self isn't a bad thing) but ends up watching by standing up too high in his stance and loses or is in neutral (which is bad) and it looks like he's giving less effort. Perry... just seems like the game hasn't slowed down mentally for him yet and what he has to mentally read. He need to get that fixed...

And I've been a huge Pickett fan, at times he's been the run clogging glue that was the only thing keeping the DL from breaking as they tried to bend but not break... but he's not getting any younger and he ether lost a step this year or was hurt... I know he was banged up but with his age you also have to think possible lost a step in his lateral movement which has been a strong point for him.

wpr
Preferred Member Topic Starter

11 years ago

#15

We've been over this enough haven't we?

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

yea we have. It was a slow day with nothing much happening int he world of football [grin1] so I here we are.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

11 years ago

#16

We've been over this enough haven't we?

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

Certainly not because who has yet come up with a plausible answer that facilitates discussion towards a solution or resolution? Have you created such comment? No. Thus, we have not gone over it enough.

However, feel free to start another topic on another issue. We're waiting.

Meanwhile, the blame for the defense solely rests on Ted Thompson. I'm tired of the injuries excuse. Bring in men who are not soft and weak. Bring in men who can play hurt instead of whining about a damn thumb injury. Man up or go play baseball.

play2win
Senior Member

11 years ago

#17

The stupid part of this entire discussion is the implied premise that one person or aspect of this team is at fault.

There is plenty of blame to go around. Ted. Mike. Dom. Lovat. Nearly every position coach on D. Saying it is one or the other misses the real mark.

buckeyepackfan
Veteran Member

11 years ago

#18

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool

There's only so many AJ Hawks out there, they are hard to find, that's why when a GM gets ahold of one, he keeps them as long as he can.

[grin1]

I don't want to see The Packers organization turning into one like say The Browns, every few years(or sooner), there is a new GM and/or a new HC.

Veteran players look around, when they have a chance they want to go to a successful franchise that is stable from top to bottom.

The Packers are that right now, I guess the only problem is that our GM doesn't go after those same free Agents who might want to play in Green Bay.

2014 is a new year, may be some surprises, if not, The Packers are still pretty well stocked if guys don't go down with season endng injuries.

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luigis
Member

11 years ago

#19

As much as I love the picks of Lacy and Bakthiari I think the biggest problem we had in defense this season was the Datone Jones pick.
Getting a starter and solid player with ou first round pick is critical in the way of our team.

I'm not qualified to judge how bad this pick was but considering the players available and the needs our team had I believe this was a catastrophic mistake.

Luis

nerdmann
Premier Member

11 years ago

#20

Originally Posted by: luigis

I personally HATED the pick at the time. I'm on record as having stated that.

But I'm not giving up on the dude. I don't think he "fits" the system, but they apparently like what they see. I am reserving judgement until I see him healthy.

According to the team, he sprained his ankle in the first preseason game. If you'll recall, he had what he calls a "kill shot" on the QB, and the OL tripped him. So if the team is reporting "sprained ankle," it's probably a compound fracture for all we know. I'm not gonna get down on the guy for playing with a compound fracture.

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