Who Really Won?· Page 4

sschind
Senior Member

11 years ago

I won!!!!! I got to slap my jackass B-I-L around for another week. Had the bares won both games this year he would have been even more of a jerk that he normally is. In the end all I had to say is GB has been in the playoffs the last 5 years with a SB to show for themselves. HOW BOUT DEM BARES? They only made it once and GB eliminated them in one way or another 3 of the last 4 years.

Originally Posted by: wpr

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I've got a B-I-L who is a Bears fan as well but thankfully he is not a jackass. I had to watch the game at his house because I don't have a TV but I must say, even though deep down I know he was rooting for the 49ers and I know he was happy as shit that the Packers lost he didn't say anything. Part of that is because I'm not a jackass and I didn't rub it in when the Packers beat the Bears. You reap what you sow in many cases (not saying you were a JA to your B-I-L wpr but a lot of Packers fans are)

I'm kind of glad my 11 year old nephew was spending the night at a friends house though. He doesn't know the meaning of the word tact yet and I know he would have been in my face and it would have been really bad for a 280 pound 47 year old man to beat the shit out of a 80 pound 11 year old. I wouldn't have done it but believe me he would have deserved it. My 12 year old nephew is learning, at least he kind of turned his head and hid his smirk.

sschind
Senior Member

11 years ago

#32

I thought along the lines of getting the higher pick, hell, I brought it up. What sense did it make to limp into the playoffs with a quarterback not fully healed? But when the game began against the Bears, I was rooting for the Packers like I always do. Not quite sure why one Packer fan thinks he's more of a fan than another cause he doesn't entertain thoughts of what would be better in the long run?

I was pleasantly surprised with how we fought the 9ers yesterday. We were like a one legged in an ass kicking contest, and almost pulled it out. We know our team has heart, except for the Thanksgiving debacle - so now it is just a matter of making proper adjustments to the lineup.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

I used to think that people who felt like that (a higher draft pick was better than a win) were not good fans but I realize that as long as people truly had what they felt were the best interests of the team at heart we are all fans. I may not agree but that doesn't matter. I will never root for a loss in exchange for a higher draft pick even though I can see where some people might think this I a good thing.

We may not all agree on what is the best thing for the Packers but the key is that we all think that what we think is the best thing for the Packers and that is what makes us Packers fans.

I will say this though. If, after the effort the Packers showed against the 49ers, you still wish the Packers would have lost against the Bears to get a better draft pick you can go **** yourself.

sschind
Senior Member

11 years ago

#33

Fair enough, my articulate friend.

I would like to, one more time, point out that I stated that this was in hindsight, after the 49ers loss and that I didn't want us to throw the game in week 17. Rodgers to Cobb was amazing and I would've loved to see us get hot in the play-offs like we did on our last SB run.

I do feel that there is quite a gap between pick 14 and 21, regardless of whether you can find some gems in the 2nd, 3rd or even the 7th round.

I have to admit that a big part of this is personal preference, as well. I'd rather watch the draft than 3 Packers games.

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder

IMO you could have phrased your OP a little better. There is a huge difference between WONDERING who really won in week 17 and WISHING your team had lost to get the better pick. Much of my first response to you initial post was aimed at the latter which is where I thought you were going. Your next post cleared it up a little.

Still to anyone who wishes that the Packers would have lost to the Bears in week 17 I would simply like to reiterate the invitation I made in my response to Dakota in post #32.

wpr
Preferred Member

11 years ago

#34

Originally Posted by: sschind

My wife comes from Chicago. Born there and family (there are 5 sisters) moved to south Suburbs when she was young. The rest of the family are Bears fans too. One of the sisters and her hubby are season ticket holders. No one else including JA's wife are JA too. He is a blowhard all the time about everything. He is a pompous, conceited, self serving JA. We love his wife so we tolerate him. He helps out my M-I-L as they live the closest to her. So I try and give his some appreciation from time to time. What makes him insufferable is he makes up crap all the time and tries to pass it off as facts. I go check the facts and point out his err constantly. He never learns. The thing that irritates me the most is his is raising his son to be a JA too. Momma is trying her best but not always successful.

pokethebear
Rookie

11 years ago

#35

In response to the OP.

Ultimately, the draft is a crap shoot. Sure, the odds are better if you draft higher, but any pick can be a swing and a miss. At the end of the day the Chicago Bears are still the Chicago Bears and Jay Cutler is still their QB. A lack of leadership at that position bodes well for the other teams in the NFC North.

Anytime I can watch the Packers beat the Bears is a good day. In fact, I would give up a first round pick if the Pack could beat the Bears every time they played them. Rivalries are one of the best parts of sports. Beating your rival is second only to winning it all.

When it's the Packers time to pick in the draft I say take the BPA regardless of position. Remember, that is how we got Rodgers.

Go Packers!

Pack93z
Select Member

11 years ago

#36

I was pleasantly surprised with how we fought the 9ers yesterday. We were like a one legged in an ass kicking contest, and almost pulled it out. We know our team has heart, except for the Thanksgiving debacle - so now it is just a matter of making proper adjustments to the lineup.

Originally Posted by: DakotaT

Old man.. you would be amazed at how many times that one legged dude is game... or even better. lol.

"The oranges are dry; the apples are mealy; and the papayas... I don't know what's going on with the papayas!"

Rockmolder
Honored Member Topic Starter

11 years ago

#37

Originally Posted by: sschind

You're right. I should've phrased it a bit better.

Rockmolder
Honored Member Topic Starter

11 years ago

#38

While this might be true, however those same players projected in the early teens could easily fall to us.

Originally Posted by: cheeseheads123

Yes. And a top 10 player might just fall to number 14.

I apologize for calling the OP an idiot.

I should have said his post seemed completely idiotic to me instead.

Seeing Cutler and the Bears cry and go home was priceless, I really don't care about when we pick in the draft.

Originally Posted by: luigis

Fair enough.

And yes, that was one sweet moment. I won't try restart this thing, but it didn't net us anything. I know that's not a popular opinion and, yes, of course I cheered and jumped around when we won, but looking back right now, it didn't gain us anything.

But I had the same thing with the SB, sort of. Rourke was jumping around with every Dutch guy he could find, while I had more of Favre-esque feel... This is it?

Again, that's easy to say in hindsight and I very much understand everyone's point. It's why I made the post, really. I'm a bit torn, myself. I loved the win, but I would've loved that better pick, as well, so I wanted to know what the rest though.

I think that all of you made that pretty clear.

Zero2Cool
Elite Member

11 years ago

#39

B.J. Raji was selected 9th overall
Clay Matthews III was selected 26th overall

Yep, Raji was the better pick.

It does not matter what draft slot you have, it matters what selection you make and how they fit your scheme. So what did the Bears win net us? A thrilling memory (top 3 moment for Rodgers btw) of eliminating our rival from the playoffs. Another ho-hum Division Championship and a CHANCE to win it all. It also netted a great playoff experience for my girls and my dad.

I'm thinking you're more of a fan of the NFL Draft than the Packers. Which is fine of course.

wpr
Preferred Member

11 years ago

#40

Originally Posted by: sschind

You're right. I should've phrased it a bit better.

Originally Posted by: Rockmolder

A little allowance should be made for Rockmolder. English is not his first language which I think he does more better here than many of us guys most of the time.

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