PackFanWithTwins
11 years ago

Bakh is a rookie, who weighs under 300 lbs.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



This is my biggest concern with him. He is not big enough for the position. He has done better than expected and that is good, but I don't expect him to be starting next season. He would be nice to keep around as a backup.
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mi_keys
11 years ago

As always, ProFootballFocus.

I didn't link to it because you have to have a paid subscription to view it. But hey if it makes you feel better lol
https://www.profootballfocus.com/data/by_position.php?tab=by_position&season=2013&pos=T&stype=r&runpass=&teamid=-1&numsnaps=25&numgames=1 

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Sources make me feel all warm and fuzzy. That's annoying that it is behind a paywall. I was curious how these ratings were determined. I didn't think Bahktiari had lit it up this year but I felt his performances were serviceable.

My sentiments align with what wpr and Dakota have said: he was thrown into a bad position and has done well being a 4th round rookie lineman who wasn't expected to contribute this year, but he has had some letdowns (e.g. the Cinccinnatti game in which he gave up the batted pass to end the game). That said, I believe he has the potential to become a solid tackle and has played well at times this year.
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mi_keys
11 years ago

I guess the real question is, at the moment is he better than Newhouse?

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 



Are you serious? A well oiled turnstile is better than Newhouse.
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PackFanWithTwins
11 years ago

Are you serious? A well oiled turnstile is better than Newhouse.

Originally Posted by: mi_keys 



But Newhouse is perfect for screen passes.
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Mucky Tundra
11 years ago

Are you serious? A well oiled turnstile is better than Newhouse.

Originally Posted by: mi_keys 



Then Bahk can be considered an upgrade.
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steveishere
11 years ago

As always, ProFootballFocus.

I didn't link to it because you have to have a paid subscription to view it. But hey if it makes you feel better lol
https://www.profootballfocus.com/data/by_position.php?tab=by_position&season=2013&pos=T&stype=r&runpass=&teamid=-1&numsnaps=25&numgames=1 

Originally Posted by: Zero2Cool 



Well they have him at like -5 for pass blocking in the first 8 weeks and like +6since so hes shown some improvement there. His run blocking hasnt improved but I think theres enough there to expect a possible breakout season next year. From what ive read about him many people thought he came out a year too early. Hes got good feet already he just needs some strength. The most important thing to me though is if he wasnt on the team I doubt we would still have a shot at the playoffs this year with newhouse starting.
nerdmann
11 years ago

This is my biggest concern with him. He is not big enough for the position. He has done better than expected and that is good, but I don't expect him to be starting next season. He would be nice to keep around as a backup.

Originally Posted by: PackFanWithTwins 



Because you don't think he can pack on some weight in the offseason? wtf

He will have to win the position next year. We've got guys coming back from injury.
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nerdmann
11 years ago

I guess the real question is, at the moment is he better than Newhouse?

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra 



Newhouse has been shitting all over himself, but he's better on the left side.

Fortunately, we haven't needed him there. Thanks to Bakhtiari.
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macbob
11 years ago
Football Outsiders has some interesting O-line analysis:

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol 

Packers are tied for 5th in run blocking, and tied for 25th in pass blocking.

We're #1 in Power running, 5th in not getting stuffed (though at least part of that is having a beast running back who gets lots of yards after contact), 11th in 2nd level blocking and 9th in open field.

We run better up between the tackles, ranking 2nd in up the middle and 3rd in off right tackle (with more than 4.5 yds/attempt adjusted line yards). L tackle drops to just above 4 yds, and around the ends are around 3.5 yds.

MM might want to look at the stats, because we run around the left end more than twice as often as the right tackle (RT ranked last in runs in each direction).
PackFanWithTwins
11 years ago

Because you don't think he can pack on some weight in the offseason? wtf

He will have to win the position next year. We've got guys coming back from injury.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 



Sure he could put on some weight, maybe get to the 305 area like D-Smith did. But that is still undersized for the position.
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