Great post porky88. One of the best on the subject.

I look at the QB issues much the same way I look at all the other position groups on the team, and especially so with RB. Seems there is a mentality from our HC that "next man up" needs to be able to make all the throws, etc, yada, yada, yada. Did McCarthy adjust his game plan in Wallace's first start to take some of the heat off of him? Hell no, and he went down in a heap, exiting the game in the first series, replaced by Tolzien, a guy who was called up from the PS just 2 weeks before. Did he adjust his game plan then? Hell no. 42 passing attempts between the two scrubs. He is clearly misusing these players of limited ability and exposure to his system.

How about RB? Had McCarthy adjusted the way our RBs were used after Rodgers went down? I haven't seen it. No real platooning to keep backs fresh. No extra OL to run heavy power formations. Little to no use of the classic FB as a lead blocker. Our OL clearly were not coached up to perform well in a run heavy attack. Hell, we didn't have a run heavy attack. We didn't even use our 3rd RB. Rarely used our FB. Never used an extra lineman.

There is zero accountability from this staff. They are an arrogant lot. We, as fans, have been screaming for an upgrade to our OL coaching, with no change, same with our DC. No change. No accountability. STs have been abysmal. Strenght and Conditioning? wow.

Let's put it this way, Ted nabbed Eddie Lacy (4.0 yds/carry) in the draft - probably the best RB in the draft. He also has provided McCarthy with James Starks (6.8 yds/carry). Lacy has 208 carries to Starks' 58. This is an explosive backfield that has gone underutilized. By rights, with Rodgers having gone down these last 5 weeks, we should be leading the NFL in carries between these two rushers. Add to that, we also HAD a thrasher, change of pace RB who had already proven himself with a 100 yd game in Jonathan Franklin. Didn't get a single carry.

How many other top talents on this team have gone underutilized, or have been misused?

Lacy and Starks should have had close to 40 carries collectively in each game since Rodgers went down. Instead they get 28 v. CHI, 28 v. PHI, 16 v. NYG, 28 v. MIN, and 12 v. DET.

Our Head Coach and his staff stink. You know you have one of the best sets of RBs in the NFL. You know you have some explosive offenses that you are facing, and you want to keep them on the sidelines and chew up some clock. You know you have 3rd and 4th string QBs running your offense. Get your OL ready to pound the rock, and POUND THE ROCK! Mike McCarthy did not do that. He didn't get anywhere close. Use some heavy formations. Use your FB. Use your RBs in a rotation to keep them fresh. Mike McCarthy didn't do any of that.

I don't want to hear about 8 men in the box. They should have game planned around that with an extra blocker and just forced their will on our opponents. But, we don't do that. Is that the GM's fault?

Originally Posted by: play2win 

Someone that puts what I am thinking into words. Bless you! =d>

Originally Posted by: DarkaneRules 

How about adding "Players Who Have Regressed" into the equation?

Marshall Newhouse
Evan Dietrich-Smith
BJ Raji
Morgan Burnett
Tramon Williams
Don Barclay
John Kuhn
AJ Hawk
MD Jennings
Jerron McMillian
Davon House
Jonathan Franklin

If I am a "draft and develop" team, and that is my philosophy, I am pretty pissed at the lack of development that I am seeing from all of these players. I would consider all of these players in the negative side of the equation. There are others who have simply amounted to little and have taken years to get there, in Brad Jones, Mike Neal, CJ Wilson. Jonathan Franklin, Josh Boyd (who has yet to see the playing field in any measurable sense) and Datone Jones were players added this last draft that we were really counting on helping this team. What happened there?

The only players I have seen developed in a positive sense are Josh Sitton, TJ Lang, Sam Shields, Jordy Nelson, James Jones, Clay Matthews, Mike Daniels, Eddie Lacy, Randall Cobb and Aaron Rodgers.

So, through all of these years, Mike McCarthy has developed around 10 players into top talents? Out of 53 players? Is that the GM's fault?

Originally Posted by: play2win 

How about adding "Players Who Have Regressed" into the equation?

Marshall Newhouse
Evan Dietrich-Smith
BJ Raji
Morgan Burnett
Tramon Williams
Don Barclay
John Kuhn
AJ Hawk
MD Jennings
Jerron McMillian
Davon House
Jonathan Franklin

Originally Posted by: play2win 

How about adding "Players Who Have Regressed" into the equation?

Marshall Newhouse
Evan Dietrich-Smith
BJ Raji
Morgan Burnett
Tramon Williams
Don Barclay
John Kuhn
AJ Hawk
MD Jennings
Jerron McMillian
Davon House
Jonathan Franklin

Originally Posted by: play2win 

Mike McCarthy does not stink. If you look at the '07 Ravens, they kept Rex Ryan on as defensive coordinator because they recognized one side of the ball was carrying the team. I don't think Green Bay should (or will) fire Mike McCarthy. I want to clarify that. I think the offense is struggling because of the quarterback. The Packers aren't running enough plays. They're not sustaining drives, so they aren't able to run the ball enough. This is the result of the quarterback, in my opinion. Also, they're playing from behind. Philadelphia, N.Y. Giants, Minnesota, and Detroit all jumped out to leads. The lack of runs is a byproduct of playing from behind and failing to convert third downs.

Like Ted Thompson, McCarthy has his strengths and weaknesses. He's a good player developer. He's developed Aaron Rodgers and put in place a system in which Rodgers is thriving. However, he's not a good in-game manager. His adjustments are either late or bad. This weakness prevents him from becoming an elite coach, but the team has won many games with him at the helm.

Regarding Dom Capers, there’s a pattern emerging. And it’s not a good one. How many good seasons has Green Bay’s defense had with him? Some would argue two because of statistics from 2009, but the Packers couldn’t stop veteran quarterbacks. Carson Palmer, Ben Roethlisberger, Brett Favre, and Kurt Warner dominated that defense, so I wouldn’t classify ‘09 as a good year.

The Packers wouldn’t have won the Super Bowl without Capers and the defense in ‘10. That was a dominating performance and the defense doesn’t get enough credit. That’s about it, though. 2011 and 2012 are messes. 2013 is looking a lot like the worst season of them all.

Teams spend an entire off-season searching for ways to exploit a player’s weakness within the context of a specific scheme. A defensive staff (and offensive staff) must adjust, but I don‘t see any adjustments from Green Bay‘s defensive staff. The players are not without guilt. Neither is Ted Thompson. He’s overvalued several defensive starters. At the end of the day, though, you have a coordinator with one good season out of five. In other words, he’s batting .200 then.

Sometimes you just need a fresh face. Look what’s happening in New Orleans. Rob Ryan is getting it done with largely the same group of players that finished No. 32 in defense last season. As I said before, I believe the foundation is there to build upon. I just don't think Capers is the right guy for the job.

Originally Posted by: porky88 

A lot of this I strongly agree with. Mike McCarthy is not by any means a TERRIBLE coach - but I haven't really seen him improve as far as mid-game adjustments as you mentioned (but something he should be much better at by now.)

Dom has only done one thing consistantly - and that is suck. As far as who he has on the field - he should be able to turn out at least an average D. We aren't stocked with tons of superstars, but most of them would be considered average to good. If personnel is causing his schemes to be ineffective, he either needs to adjust his game plan, or get Ted to give him what he does need. Your GM and DC HAVE to be on the same page. Aside from that - injuries are affecting some of this, but a complete breakdown on D would suggest other problems.

Ted needs to adjust as well. It is obvious many issues are related to lack of experience on the field - which is normal for first and second year players, but when this makes up a large portion of the team.... there are too many mistakes as a whole unit. A few FA signings could give these guys the missing pieces. Ted does some great things via draft, but he could do more to round out this team. Yes it will cost some cap, but it is obvious that a team made mostly of late draft picks won't quite cut it.

I think everyone in the organization has some blame to accept, it isn't all on one or two guys. Strength and conditioning, OL coaching, DB coaches are all elements which should also be looked at. It appears that they are all on different pages.

Originally Posted by: hardrocker950 

To be fair, Barclay,McMillian,and Franklin are to young to say they have regressed, just because mcMillian showed flashes last year, doesn't mean he has regressed, could be he is still learning....Takes time, Barclay was thrown into the fire, again probably not ready. played well at time, then injured,
Franklin had a really bad fumble, but who shwed promise then he also was injured.

Kuhn???? He has become what he was suppose to be all the time, a blocking FB, go back and look and you will see he was doing his job pretty well.
With the emergence of Lacy and Starks, Kuhn wasn't needed as a ball carrier.

EDS, when healthy and playing with Sitton, and Lang looked pretty solid.

The rest, if you say they have regressed, well so be it.

Originally Posted by: buckeyepackfan 

McMillian shit himself. So did BJ Coleman.

The rest of these guys are fine. Newhouse maybe has regressed. Don't think he's used to the right side anymore after playing two years on the left.

Originally Posted by: nerdmann 

Regressed from what? The dude is a rookie.

Originally Posted by: Mucky Tundra